Re: Perceptual symbol systems

From: Wolf Kirchmeir (wwolfkir_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 08/12/04 

Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 15:25:18 -0400

patty wrote:
[...]
> I am trying to understand this change that is being suggested in our
> language. Here is my example: There are facts about a particular rose.
> I look at that particular rose and there are changes in my brain
> corresponding to those facts about the rose. I draw a picture of the
> particular rose and those facts about the rose are reproduced in the
> picture. Now according to your paradigm am i not permitted to say that
> those facts about the rose were contained in my head ?

IMO, darwing/painting the rose is a good example of how feedback works
to shape behavior.

Observe that it takes a heap of training to be able to "reproduce" the
rose on paper. Painters aren't born - they're made. One of my daughters
is a painter. She did an awful lot more drawing as a kid and ttenager
than any of her age-mates did. IOW, she "practiced making pictures."
Without that practice, she couldnn't have become the painter she is.

IOW, when we attempt to "draw what we see", it's the feedback from the
_failed_ attempt to do so that prompts the changes in behaviour that
eventually become the ability to draw what you see. NB too that
different painters have different styles - high realism or photo realism
is just one style. Even those who paint "realistic" pictures differ in a
variety of ways, so that one can usually tell who painted what.

You don't need the notion of "facts about the rose in one's head" to
account for the painting of the picture. IMO, such a notion confuses
rather than enlightens.

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