Re: the silliness of such things as mental effects

From: Allan C Cybulskie (allan.c.cybulskie_at_yahoo.ca)
Date: 08/14/04 

Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 18:12:40 -0400

"patty" <pattyNO@SPAMicyberspace.net> wrote in message
news:PEzSc.238063$a24.54918@attbi_s03...
> Allan C Cybulskie wrote:
> > "patty" <pattyNO@SPAMicyberspace.net> wrote in message
> > news:33oRc.110651$eM2.45663@attbi_s51...
> >
> >>Lester Zick wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I would, however, like to comment on the silliness of such things as
> >>mental effects. There are none! Think about it. If you act one way,
> >>you can be thinking and feeling another way, and if you don't change
> >>your behavior in the slightest, no one can ever know, and your mental
> >>activity will have absolutely no effect. Lester, you above all people,
> >>should appreciate that.
> >
> >
> > Um, I fail to see why this is important. You are correct, and in fact I
may
> > even be trying to ensure that no one else knows. But it still has an
> > effect, in at least my thinking and even in the actions I take. If it
NEVER
> > impacted any of my actions, THEN it might have been useless, but I'm not
> > certain that's ever the case, and even if it was it may still have an
impact
> > on the internal behaviour itself.
> >
>
> Well internal activity certainly can effect *subsequent* external
> activity. My point was that until it is manifested as external activity
> it has no effect on the world.

Well, if you mean external world solely, then you are correct, but if it
changes how I would view or interact the world in specific instances, it
isn't really irrelevant or useless, and is in fact quite useful.

I don't want to see the importance of the internal jetisoned because we
can't see the internal until it effects the external. Let's not just
blindly condition everything against conscious reason just because we don't
have a nice way of studying its impact/

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