Re: Hawkins ideas on building AI's

From: bkaz (bkaz__at_hotmail.com)
Date: 10/23/04 

Date: 23 Oct 2004 05:43:11 -0700

David Longley <David@longley.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<JwcJDYKPRaeBFwM+@longley.demon.co.uk>...
> In article <def186b4.0410221556.4130ce55@posting.google.com>, bkaz
> <bkaz_@hotmail.com> writes
> >> B: That is pattern recognition, & that's what cortex does on every level.
> >> Memory/association is just another term for it.
>
> >> GS: Not exactly. Although it is true that much of what is called "memory" is
> >> simply the effects of exposure to repeated presentations of stimuli
> >> (habituation), "pairings" of stimuli (classical conditioning), and "3-term
> >> contingencies" (operant conditioning), there is a bit more. That is, when
> >> animals are exposed to, for example, delayed match-to-sample procedures,
> >> they learn to do subtle things that mediate the temporal gap. The
> >> acquisition of such behavior is, to be sure, the result of conditioning, but
> >> it is not just one simple operant response class.
> >
> >There're probably many redundant mechanisms in the brain, evolution is
> >dumb but we can do better.
> >
> >> B: There're lots of redundant terms in AI, philosophy, neuroscience..., but
> >> "Entities must not be multiplied unnecessarily" (Occam)
>
> >> GS: But, unfortunately, cognitive psychology's raison d'etre is the
> >> promiscuous invention of explanatory fictions. And cognitive psychology has
> >> corrupted AI, neuroscience, etc.
> >
> >I don't know who's corrupted whom, it seems human brain just isn't
> >good at abstractions.
> >
> >Boris.
>
> Let's face it - you don't know very much, and you don't appear to be
> interested in doing any more about that than Zick or many others here.
> You don't know what Sizemore's referring to, so you end up writing
> rubbish. That's a fact - why don't you try to learn and do yourself a
> service? As it is, you're all just rehashing the Monty Python Argument
> sketch. That was designed to show people how silly such behaviour is.
> Are you American *and* stupid?

Oh yeah, that pest is here again.

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