Re: Epistemology 201: The Science of Science

From: Lester Zick (lesterDELzick_at_worldnet.att.net)
Date: 02/02/05 

Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:47:15 GMT

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:09:43 +0000, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]>
in comp.ai.philosophy wrote:

>In message <4200ebcc.62632722@netnews.att.net>, Lester Zick
><lesterDELzick@worldnet.att.net> writes
>>On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:08:25 +0000, Richard Herring <junk@[127.0.0.1]>
>>in comp.ai.philosophy wrote:
>>
>>>In message <36afp6F5080m6U1@individual.net>, robert j. kolker
>>><nowhere@nowhere.net> writes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Lester Zick wrote:
>>>>> And rational numbers are a subset of irrational numbers and not a
>>>>> subset of transcendental numbers. Got that, sport?
>>>>
>>>>Irrelevent, as usual.
>>>
>>>Never mind irrelevant, just plain wrong.
>>>
>>>The rationals and the irrationals are disjunct sets, hence the names.
>>>
>>>Perhaps he means the rationals are a subset of the reals?
>>
>>To be more specific I mean that rationals and irrationals form a
>>complementary set
>
>That's not "more specific", it's a complete contradiction of your
>earlier incorrect statement:

Hi Red. My bad. I must remember never to make mistakes less
significant than the mistakes made by others that I point out.

>>>>>rational numbers are a subset of irrational numbers
>
>Must remember that one.
>"To be more specific" = "I'm about to contradict myself"

Hi Red. My bad. I must remember never to make mistakes less
significant than the mistakes made by others that I point out. My
mistakes are only irrational because they can be pointed out whereas
your mistakes are transcendental because they cannot be pointed out.

>>which can be pointed out on a straight line with the
>>use of right angles and that transcendentals cannot.
>
>Still wrong, anyway. All transcendental numbers *are* irrational, so
>there are some irrationals that can't be "pointed out".

And there are some mistakes that must be transcendental because
apparently they can't be pointed out either. If you wish to maintain
that transcendental and irrational mechanics are the same, you are
just making a transcendental mistake.

>Maybe you mean the *algebraic numbers* can be "pointed out" and the
>transcendentals cannot?

No I mean transcendentals cannot be pointed out on a straight line
using right angles. If rational numbers can be pointed out on a
straight line using right angles and there are numbers on a straight
line which can be pointed out using right angles which are not
rational, then the meaning of the term not rational or irrational is
established by that fact and not the wishful thinking of those who
merely see cardinal approximations for irrational and transcendental
numbers running off to infinity in covergent series.

Regards - Lester

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