Re: Epistemology 201: The Science of Science

From: Albert (albertwagner_at_cox.net)
Date: 02/11/05


Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:07:19 -0600

Tony Orlow (aeo6) wrote:
> stephen@nomail.com said:
>
>>In sci.math Tony Orlow (aeo6) <aeo6@cornell.edu> wrote:
>>: Or, you can simply admit that there are more real numbers between 0 and
>>: 2 than there are between 0 and 1, even if the "cardinality" is the same,
>>: for instance, 1.5.
>>: --
>>: Smiles,
>>
>>: Tony
>>
>>Whoever said that there were not numbers in [0,2] that were not in [0,1]?
>>What is true is that every element in [0,1] can be uniquely mapped to
>>an element in [0,2]. Why won't you simply admit that? :)
>>
>>Stephen
>>
>
> I never denied that. Cantor's cardinality is significant, and
> distinguishes between classes of infinity. I am making a valid point
> that there are details of infinity that it does not capture. There is a
> problem when idiots say there are the same number of reals between 0 and
> 1 as between 0 and 2, when one obvious has more reals than the other as
> a proper superset, just because there is the same Cantorian cardinality.
> Why can't you simply admit that?

Can a valid bijection be invented between the set of reals
between 0 and 1 and the set of reals between 0 and 2? It doesn't
seem so to me, in that all reals between 1 and 2 will be left
unmatched. But, hell, what do I know?

<snip>

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