Re: Epistemology 201: The Science of Science

stephen_at_nomail.com
Date: 03/03/05 

Date: 3 Mar 2005 23:15:18 GMT

In sci.math Neil W Rickert <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote:
: "Allan C Cybulskie" <allan.c.cybulskie@yahoo.ca> writes:
:>"Neil W Rickert" <rickert+nn@cs.niu.edu> wrote in message
:>news:cvt66b$pea$1@usenet.cso.niu.edu...

:>> For starters, there are no such things as "octal numbers". We
:>> normally use that terminology loosely, referring to strings
:>> representing numbers, but you have excluded representing strings from
:>> what you are discussing. But there is nothing octal about the
:>> numbers. The "octal" is a property of the string representation,
:>> not a property of the number.

:>You cannot place octal and decimals numbers in the same set and call it a
:>set of any kind of number. The operations are defined at least slightly
:>differently, and have their own meanings. They are separate number systems.

: That's silly.

: What is different, are the operations on the string representations.
: The operation on the numbers are the same, for they are the same
: numbers.

: You explicitly deny that you are talking about the string
: representations. But everything distinctive about octal, compared
: with decimal, has to do with the string representations. The number
: fifteen is the number fifteen. Whether I write it as "15" in
: decimal, or as "17" in octal, it is still the same number. There are
: not distinct octal numbers and decimal numbers.

Don't forget XV. :)

Stephen

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