Re: How many differences, categories?
From: Just Playing (gms2004_at_lycos.com)
Date: 03/25/05
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Date: 25 Mar 2005 11:18:53 -0800
Immortalist wrote:
> Just Playing wrote:
> > Thank you, I saved it on my computer and I will look at it later.
> > OTOH my concern is mostly with the the categorization at the
> > conceptual, verbal level.
>
> > It is more like something that could be tested by asking a group
to
> > describe verbally an image.
>
> > It is a translation from one type of perception, visual, to
another,
> > verbal and back.
>
> ......In a sparse distributed network - memory is a type of
> perception.....The act of remembering and the act of perceiving both
> detect a pattern in a vary large choice of possible patterns....When
we
> remember we recreate the act of the original perception - that is we
> relocate the pattern by a process similar to the one we used to
> perceive the pattern originally.
I look at pattern as a combination of differences or categories.
I am wondering how many differences we pack into a pattern before the
pattern becomes meaningless?
JP
> Kevin Kelly......oUt Of cOnTrOl......page 18---
> http://www.kk.org/outofcontrol/ch2-d.html
>
> Somehow human noises initiate similar non-verbal/syntaxic- memories
and
> experiences. If the act of remembering and the act of perceiving both
> detect a pattern in a vary large choice of possible patterns and when
> we remember we recreate the act of the original perception - that is
we
> relocate the pattern by a process similar to the one we used to
> perceive the pattern originally, then these noises of language gain
> dualistic access to the pathways experience travels and is
translatable
> into those experience.
>
> --reanimater
>
> transcribe: rewrite or arrange a piece of music for an instrument or
> medium other than that originally intended.
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Atranscribe
>
> 1. To make a full written or typewritten copy of (dictated
> material, for example).
>
> 2. Computer Science. To transfer (information) from one recording
> and storing system to another.
>
> 3. Music.
>
> 1. To adapt or arrange (a composition) for a voice or
> instrument other than the original.
>
> 2. To translate (a composition) from one notational system
to
> another.
>
> 3. To reduce (live or recorded music) to notation.
>
> 4. To record, usually on tape, for broadcast at a later date.
>
> 5. Linguistics. To represent (speech sounds) by phonetic symbols.
>
> 6. To translate or transliterate.
>
> 7. Biology. To cause (DNA) to undergo transcription.
>
>
> > If we create a verbal limitation, as in a specified number of
words
> > for a verbal description, is it possible for another person that
has
> > not seen the image, to recognize it from the verbal description?
> > Do we create new concepts in order to do it?
>
> > How do we describe so many differences with a limited number of
> words?
> > What is the minimum number of words to create a "perfect
> translation"?
> >
> > Are the words used for description understandbly for somebody
else?
> >
> > JP
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