Re: More on Ecological Economics.
From: Doug Bashford (see.my.sig_at_theBeach.edu)
Date: 06/19/04
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Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2004 06:34:51 GMT
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Re: More on Ecological Economics.
> (Doug Bashford) wrote in message news:<10d4npe4c4mcm76@corp.supernews.com>...
> > I have long struggled to find a way to introduce
> > ethics into the philosophy (and method) of science.
> > More correctly, into one science; Ecological Economics.
> > The closest I have come is to introduce a fourth
> > (unprovable) axiom to the philosophy of science,
> > something like "Biological life is good."
> > Albert Schweitzer has the concept pegged.
> > How I envy the poet scientist.
> >
> > As one might imagine, the formal introduction of
> > ethics into a science has met unbounded resistance.
> > "Ethics isn't scientific." or "Good according to whom?"
> > Yet I think most of the resistance comes from the
> > assumption that axioms must be mechanistically applied,
> > but doesn't this contradict the concept of the axiom?
> > So I wonder if it is not my choice of words which fail.
> > ( WANTED: Poet scientist. )
> > =============
>
> It may surprise you to learn that for over 3,700,000,000 ecological
> principles have been building an ecology beyond the ability of human
> beings to grasp, without once consulting an Ecological Economist.
Can we presume you refer more specifically to the
570 million years since the Cambrian explosion?
I normally do, since I try to avoid debate for
its own sake.
> So the first thing
> you need is the humility to comprehend that economics
> is non-relevent to ecology.
I guess that might depend on whether one percieved
that the economy and economic policy were destroying
that ecosystem.
> The second thing you need is to obtain a sound education in biology,
> as a necessity of life for all 21st century human beings,
> economist-mined or not.
Are you talking to me!?
> The third thing you need to learn is: whensoever economics becomes an
> excusing mechanism for sociopathic behaviors, society reserves the
> right to strap economists down onto a gurney and apply a lethal
> injection into a vein and rid ourselves of a hostile force.
In which society is that?
> Ethics is
> not optional behavior -- it should not be a difficult struggle for
> anyone, economist or not, to articulate the cohesive principles of
> society in plain common language any time of the day or night.
Then you agree with me and the principles of EE?
>
> NOW, the "economist" profession is sadly behind the duty to cleanse
> itself of miscreants whom have aided and abetted corporate serial
> murderers in sociopathic behaviors.
I think you have worthy values. But let me give you
a valuable tip from Mark Twain:
Write drunk, edit sober.
>
> In this document I have provided proofs which have withstood one round
> of evidence in due process courts of law in the tobacco trials:
> http://www.ecosyn.us/adti/ADTI_Frauds_01.html
>
> You will find names of economists in this citation whom currently need
> expulsion from positions of trust and respect, and you are charged
> with the duty to perform your share of social responsibility to see
> this is done.
>
> http://tobaccodocuments.org/lor/92756807-6876.html
> "Science, Economics, and Environmental Policy: A Critical Examination
> A Research Report Conducted by the Alexis De Tocqueville Institution"
> Date: 11 Aug 1994, Length: 70 pages
editing: done.
--Doug
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