Re: Defeating The Top 1%; Request For Criticism
From: Eric Atkinson (atki4564_at_iwon.com)
Date: 06/19/04
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Date: 18 Jun 2004 23:33:22 -0700
jonathansmith99@yahoo.com (Jonathan Smith) wrote in message news:<fbcaefd.0406180626.27b1c272@posting.google.com>...
> atki4564@iwon.com (Eric Atkinson) wrote in message news:<11bb2490.0406172020.720002b1@posting.google.com>...
> > jonathansmith99@yahoo.com (Jonathan Smith) wrote in message news:<fbcaefd.0406171447.9b54459@posting.google.com>...
> > > atki4564@iwon.com (Eric Atkinson) wrote in message news:<11bb2490.0406151807.72e31fcb@posting.google.com>...
> > > > > >
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> > And if you're rich, relax, the objective of this system is individual
> > freedom and empowerment for everyone, so if you already have that now,
> > you'll have it later too, but without having to listen to all the
> > whining.
>
> You said:
>
> "In turn, the customer groups then distribute 50% of that capital, by
> lottery, to democratically self-organizing employee groups."
>
> That redistribution of capital by lottery? That's MY capital, not
> yours. Thief.
>
I only called myself a "thief" (to you) earlier to get an ...
aha!...out of you, thus giving you a point of reference (by that word)
to understand the proposed system in its current state of development,
but that development certainly isn't complete.
Why? Because the word "lottery" is, at the moment, only the best
description I can think of for what is technically called, by
engineers, a "fuzzy logic" problem within the proposed system. Fuzzy
logic is a part holistic, part mathematical concept used to describe
something which is neither completely true nor completely false, like
the "lottery" concept as currently described. As such, fuzzy logic is
only a partial truth, with values between true and false, and thus
very similar to stating a series of probabilities.
However, being that I, like others, CAN'T STAND the idea of a partial
truth or a shade of gray when it comes to the efficiency of an
economic and political system, this "fuzzy logic" concept as it
relates to the lottery concept is a source of intense moral conflict
within me regarding how to deal with the mathematical or possibly
quasi-mathematical details underlying the proposed system,
particularly with regard to the organization of the customer group.
That moral conflict is the reason I'm here. I need expert advice on
how to achieve this fuzzy logic balance within the equation that
defines the customer group, the employee group, and the government
group.
In fact, although I'll personally continue to research this fuzzy
logic problem until I think I've found a unanimously agreeably
solution, I simply may never have the intellectual capacity to provide
that highly complex solution, and that thought vexes the hell out of
me! It's like God trying to explain himself to an ant, and that ant, -
you, me, anybody - just doesn't get it...yet.
So, overall, with regard to your question, the scientist within me
says: "Hell no, there is no such thing as fuzzy logic, for something
cannot be partially true when the only agreeable solution for creating
an efficient economic and political system must be a
unanimously-agreed-upon solution, hence only a true or false solution
will do (see set theory and talk to statisticians before passing go).
Yet, the engineer within me says: "Not so fast, scientist, I build
washing machines which sense the need for detergent based on load size
using fuzzy logic sensors. I also do this with certain functions
within refrigerators and other appliances, so perhaps there is some
kind of middle ground here that's deceiving you scientists (see
superset theory and talk to software developers before passing go)".
Therefore, in the larger engineering and scientific community today,
there is a real controversy between the engineering group and the
science group about how to deal with this fuzzy logic issue, as well
as within me, you, anybody with regard to its implementation within
the proposed system.
Why? Because the sensors that engineers use are real, and they work,
yet the statiscians (the scientists) are not quite sure how to deal
with them for the purpose of creating optimal efficiency within a
physical system, be it economic, political, or otherwise. Therefore,
if you've got any ideas about a better way to deal with this fuzzy
logic lottery concept, then I'm all eyes and ears, and would be happy
to cooperate with you in any way possible, for I hate the idea of a
partial truth. Bah! Humbug!
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