Re: More on Ecological Economics.

From: Sigvaldi Eggertsson (sigvald_at_binet.is)
Date: 06/22/04 

Date: 22 Jun 2004 11:27:53 -0700

"Ian St. John" <istjohn@noemail.ca> wrote in message news:<yRUBc.14068$MU4.530905@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> Sigvaldi Eggertsson wrote:
> > "Ian St. John" <istjohn@noemail.ca> wrote in message
> > news:<EjHBc.5695$Nz.555449@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> >
> >> Actually, I have an excellent presentation from "The Learning
> >> Channel" on the issue. Would you like a copy? Mostly it is the
> >> equivalent of "district heating' for both housing heat and domestic
> >> hot water. The concentration of citizenry in Reykjavik helps.
> >> However, all electricity, portable fuels, etc are separate from the
> >> house heating issue.
> >
> > Icelanders are not all concentrated in Reykjavík,
>
> I did not imply that ALL icelanders were in Reykjavik. I said that they were
> more concentrated in one city than the normal situation, and with over half
> of the countries population in the city,. this is obviously true. If you
> consider the nearby satellite communities the figure rises to 75% within
> range of the nearby geothermal tap.
>
> > geothermal heating
> > is used all over Iceland to heat buildings, greenhouses, sidewalks and
> > the occasional streets and in Reykjavík and the Suðurnes area the same
> > water that is used for domestic heating is also used to generate
> > electricity, so the electricity is not seperate to the house heating
> > issue.
>
> Yes. yes. I know. Please read the reference I gave in the other reply. The
> point is that the acummulated population of Reykjavik and nearby region is
> quite a bit of the total and this helps to utilise geothermal from a few
> centrally located facilities. Most countries have no more than 10% to 15% of
> their population in any one city or city region.
>
> http://www.world-gazetteer.com/t/t_is.htm (population in [1000])
> rank Place Administrative Division Pop 2004 Aggl. 2004 Latitude
> Longitude
> 1 Reykjavík Höfuðborgarsvæði 116.5 187.5
> 64.14°N 21.92°W
> 2 Kópavogur Höfuðborgarsvæði 26.8 Reykjavík 64.12°N
> 21.92°W
> 3 Hafnarfjörður Höfuðborgarsvæði 21.8 Reykjavík 64.06°N
> 21.95°W
> 6 Garðabær Höfuðborgarsvæði 9.0 Reykjavík 64.09°N
> 21.99°W
> 10 Seltjarnarnes Höfuðborgarsvæði 4.7 Reykjavík 64.13°N
> 21.93°W
> 7 Mosfellsbær Höfuðborgarsvæði 7.0 Reykjavík 64.15°N
> 21.65°W
> 17 Álftanes Höfuðborgarsvæði 2.0 Reykjavík
> 64.11°N 22.03°W
> --------
> 187.8
>
> 4 Akureyri Norðurland eystra 16.0
> 65.69°N 18.12°W
> 5 Keflavík Suðurnes 10.8
> 64.01°N 22.56°W
> 8 Akranes Vesturland 5.8
> 64.33°N 22.09°W
> 9 Selfoss Suðurland 5.2
> 63.94°N 21.01°W
> 11 Vestmannæyjar Suðurland 4.4
> 63.44°N 20.27°W
> 12 Ísafjörður Vestfirðir 3.0
> 66.08°N 23.14°W
> 13 Sauðárkrókur Norðurland vestra 2.6
> 65.74°N 19.66°W
> 14 Grindavík Suðurnes 2.5
> 63.85°N 22.45°W
> 15 Húsavík Norðurland eystra 2.4
> 65.40°N 13.70°W
> 16 Hveragerði Suðurland 2.0
> 64.01°N 21.21°W
> 18 Borgarnes Vesturland 1.8
> 64.54°N 21.95°W
> 19 Höfn Austurland 1.7
> 64.26°N 15.21°W
> 20 Egilsstaðir Austurland 1.6
> 65.26°N 14.40°W
> ----------
> 59.8
>
> Note: To locate distances between cities, a degree of latitude or longitude
> is approxmately 69 statute miles, so Reykjavík and Kópavogur are separated
> by only approximately 1.38 miles.
> With nearly 76% of the population clustered so closely, the district heating
> is much easier to implement from a few facilities. And please don't
> challenge my source without a reasonable source of your own.. This is
> getting tedious.

What do you mean tedious? I was just answering your statement:

>> However, all electricity, portable fuels, etc are separate from
the
>> house heating issue.

and I do not have to challenge any of your sources at all. I live here
and experience these things first hand.

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