Re: US dollar: modern history

From: Johnny Marcos (johnny5_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/05/04 

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 01:20:16 GMT

royls@telus.net wrote in news:40e84480.2700868@news.telus.net:

>>Roy L, the good of the many - advancement of the human species - that
>>may be best served from a logans run type society
>
> ?? It's hard to see how.

I agree - so why do you advocate it - we need to protect our old - they
were there for us when we were not productive - how about paying back the
favor?

> Those who have volunteered to fight in just wars prove you wrong.

The difference being in logans run you voluntary choose to take the
bullet at 30 for no real sacrifice, in war you have a chance of living
and being a hero - as a lot of returning soldiers prove.

> I don't, and have never said anything remotely similar to that. What
> have you been smoking?

Your rhetoric.

> Lie. It just puts the good of the majority of deserving individuals

Deserving? What you consider deserving and what the native american
indians consider deserving and what the bushmen of africa consider
deserving are very different I am sure. If you claim the native
americans deserve thier land because we took it by force then give yours
back to them, if you claim they were weaker and the more productive human
took it then I think you and your family are weaker than me so where do
you live so I can come get it off of you?

> above the privileges of an undeserving minority.

My mother is non productive, and my grandmother is non productive, there
are lots of other old non productive people - the real estate payments
are the only way they survive - are you so bitter with life you want to
rob them of that now rather than wait for them to die a natural death and
let it pass back to society? That makes you look like an ungrateful
hypocrite to me - when you were a non productive little snotty nosed kid
you got FREE resources for no work - and now the old people that gave you
that society you want to rob that same priveledge from.

> Lie.

TRUTH.

> I don't know. The Net has changed the game by making it possible to
> inform and educate very large numbers of people at almost no cost.

Ok, here is your chance, an opportunity to make a convert that will
spread your word for you like the apostles did Jesus. When I was a
little snotty kid, I didn't really produce much for society - my mom and
dad and grandmom and granddad gave me presents and fed me as they did all
us children collectively - and now they are old and non productive and
the burden falls on me and the rest of us collectively to take care of
them - but you are saying NO - *** paying those taxes they need for
drugs and food - take thier land they worked thier whole life to get and
rent out now - let the old die from starvation and it makes you and your
theories look very evil and unappreciative and hypocritical to me.

I am not going to support you taking away what my parents and
grandparents need to live - they will die naturally without your help -
no thanks.

> But it has likewise made it cheaper to misinform and deceive. One
> thing is sure: we won't get to freedom, justice and prosperity by
> acquiescing in a system that yields tryanny, injustice and stagnation.

I am sorry you feel my parents and grandparents and the rest of the folks
that got here first don't deserve to hold on to the wealth because you
and I are younger and stronger and can be more productive if we just take
thier wealth and land and ss money from them - that is what the american
colonists did to the indians and I will never support you doing that to
my elderly - how do you sleep at night?