Re: Greenspan, a common criminal

From: Johnny Marcos (johnny5_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/05/04 

Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 06:18:56 GMT

Les Cargill <lcargill@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:u1WFc.808$jJ3.419@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> Johnny Marcos wrote:

> Because it is not consistent with the principles under which
> this country was founded.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0684870533/ref=pd_s
im_books
_3/104-0001214-8783907?v=glance&s=books

The author seeks at length to prove that the American Creed,
which he
defines as a Protestant-influenced ideology modeled on the
British
system, was the founders' original intent and remains America's
best
course

Immigration when combined with assimilation is good, but
Mexican-American immigration has created problems due to lack of
assimilation, lack of shared values including the Calvinist ethic
and
failure to consider themselves American rather than Mexican.
According
to Huntington, some of this is due to deliberate actions of the
Mexican
government in an attempt to export their unemployed to the U.S.
and to
import at least some of the wages those exported receive to
Mexico.
Also, in Huntington's view Mexico is using their expatriate
community to
influence U.S. policy to the benefit of Mexico. Some of his data
is
disturbing. For example he documents a decline in college
attendence for
third and fourth generation Mexican-Americans as well as a
corresponding
lack of their movement into the professions. 4. Elites,
cosmopolitans,
deconstructionists, one-worlders, academics, and governmental
authorities are out of touch with the views of "average'
Americans who
still view the world in terms of nationality and believe in the
'American dream'. He sums up with comments reflective of his
earlier
"The Clash Of Civilizations And The New World Order" saying that
we have
a choice about America's role in the world- cosmopolitan,
imperial,
national.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0060976918/ref=cm_c
ustrec_g
l_rec/104-0001214-8783907?v=glance&s=books

Truth be told, the founders never intended for this to be a
"multicultural" country. If one reads the Federalist Papers
(which I've
reviewed here), you discover that the founders were counting on
the
"common heritage" of the people to help make the new country
work. As
Brimelow shows, multiculturalism is of recent vintage (1960 and
later).

His emphasis on the fact that the US was/is a primarily white
nation is
not racist; it's merely stating fact. There's no talk about what
race is
"better", only that commonality is better. I think the charges of
xenophobia by some reviewers are entirely specious.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1893554732/ref=pd_s
im_books
_2/104-0001214-8783907?v=glance&s=books

Dr. Hanson is sympathetic to everyone affected by this except the
multi-culturalist professors who promote the "Aztlan movement" (a
return
of the U.S. Southwest to Mexico). These professors will have
apoplexy
over this book.

Few people in this country are aware of the strong feelings that
Hispanic professors and legal and illegal aliens have about
turning this
part of our country into a kind of branch of Mexico.

Dr. Hanson makes the point that immigrants forget why they left
Mexico
in the first place. They romanticize their memories of home and
try to
change the very culture here that they sought (American freedom
and
opportunity) into another Third World country. He tells how one
immigrant friend told him, "When we turn California into Mexico,
we will
move up to Oregon. When we turn Oregon into Mexico, we will move
up to
Washington..."

Hanson argues that the reason for this crisis is that both ends
of the
political spectrum have vested interests in continuing the
unabated
entry of illegal Mexicans. Republicans wish to placate business
interests with cheap labor and Democrats hope for a future
electoral
base. Hanson further explains that this wave is not like the
earlier
waves of Polish, Jewish, or Italian immigration which was of a
fixed
duration and where the connection of the new immigrant to the
Homeland
was more thoroughly severed.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0929408179/ref=pd_s
im_books
_3/104-0001214-8783907?v=glance&s=books

Author Thomas Chittuhas written a scary account of civil war
might break
out in America. He has been a soldier of fortune in various
conflicts
and and looks at social events from a military perspective. He
has a
sweeping knowledge of ethic conflict and revolutions around the
globe
and uses such examples of conflict to prove his point that
America may
soon face ethnic civil war.

One of his main points is that most countries that are multi-
ethnic
usually have ehnically based civil wars. Countries that are
almost
mono-ethnic do not. He give s examples of such countries. Once a
country's majority ethnic group dips below 70 percent serious
ethnic
troubles begin. He gives warning signs of what these ethnic
troubles
will be and how they signal a coming civil war

Multiculturalism does not work - it never has and the lefties
that have
confused what has WORKED in the past with today are taking us all
down
into DOOM - our great nation will be dispersed like the tower of
babel -
and all the parts will become weaker than the whole - this will
be good
for UNIFIED communist china.

http://inside.c-spanarchives.org:8080/cspan/cspan.csp?
command=dprogram&re
cord=52865550

David Brooks spoke about the growth of suburbs in America and
described
the different suburban "zones" he discovered while researching
his book,
On Paradise Drive, published by Simon and Schuster. In his book,
he
argues that because Americans are increasingly moving to suburban
areas
where, to a large extent, only like-minded individuals live, the
country
is becoming extremely divided. A reflection of this development,
he
says, can been seen in the rhetoric of the two major political
parties
in Washington. Mr. Brooks added that while the country is divided
politically, there exists a common energy that continues to
define us as
Americans. Afterwards, Mr. Brooks took questions from the
audience.

The video
http://www.c-span.org/Search/basic.asp?
BasicQueryText=brooks&SortBy=date

Click the first link to watch the video on David Brooks.

He talks about cycles of polarization - they were low post ww2
until
about 1976, they were high during the civil war - low
polarization keeps
the tower of babel together - high polarization and blood will be
shed.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0743227387/qid=
1089001536/sr=2-1/r
ef=sr_2_1/104-0001214-8783907

http://anthro.palomar.edu/ethnicity/ethnic_6.htm

Implications of the Changing Population Patterns

Beyond the numerical data for ethnicity and "race" in America, it
is
important to grasp the human personal dimension of this
diversity. It
has had profound effects on the attitudes and actions of both
minority
and majority groups. Perceptions of racial identity are
especially
important among African Americans today. Their history of
slavery and
severe institutionalized discrimination are not easily put behind
them.
To the contrary, they have become important ethnic symbols in the
"racial" boundary maintenance separating African and European
Americans.

The rate of loss of a minority group's distinct identity and the
assimilation of its members into the majority population has
depended on
a number of historical and social factors. It has been
relatively easy
for most European immigrants to assimilate within 1-2 generations
due to
their similarity in physical appearance to the majority
population.
However, people with darker skin color have not been able to
assimilate
as readily or at all in some cases. This has been particularly
true of
African Americans and some Hispanics. As a result, assimilation
now is
often rejected as a goal by "minorities of color" in favor of
gaining
respect and acceptance as economically and politically equal but
separate ethnic groups.

Another major factor affecting the likelihood of assimilation has
been
the size and concentration of ethnic groups. Those that make up
the
predominate population in a large community greatly insulate
their
members from the dominant cultural patterns of the national
society.
Their members can live surrounded by people sharing the same
ethnicity
and speaking the same familiar language or dialect. In this
situation,
pressures to assimilate can be greatly ignored. This has been
the case
with many Mexicans and Central Americans in East and South Los
Angeles.
In part, this has also been due to the continued high rates of
immigration of Spanish speakers into these communities.

When immigrants are isolated from others of their ethnic group,
it is
much more difficult for them to resist the pressure to
assimilate. This
was the case with some of the Vietnamese boat people who arrived
in the
1970's. The children of those who were relocated in smaller
towns in
the Midwest, rather than major cities in California, usually
acquired
non-Vietnamese friends and learned relatively quickly to speak
English
without a Vietnamese accent. These are important first steps in
assimilation. However, whether or not it occurs also depends on
the
acceptance of the newcomers by the majority population.

Perhaps dispersing the tower of babel in a peaceful way is a
beneficial
thing however

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0385503865/ref=pd_s
im_books
_2/104-0001214-8783907?v=glance&s=books

If four basic conditions are met, a crowd's "collective
intelligence"
will produce better outcomes than a small group of experts,
Surowiecki
says, even if members of the crowd don't know all the facts or
choose,
individually, to act irrationally. "Wise crowds" need (1)
diversity of
opinion; (2) independence of members from one another; (3)
decentralization; and (4) a good method for aggregating opinions.

Seperation and decentralization.

> And so what? We've largely solved the transport problem. Would
you
> prefer that televisions be $2500, or $5000 per unit, just for a
> basic model?

My opinions have not finalized on what is happening and what is
the best
course - Mosler basically says as long as people are going to
send us
FREE products for treasury securities we will default on then let
thier
own greed be thier destruction. But we are losing manufacturing
base to
a communist country - that is not a good thing. Whereas I want
cheap
products, at the cost that we lose global dominance as a
democratic
power to a communist one - I think perhaps it is too great a
cost.

> You want to see the future? It's in the young man who
> was my next door neighbor. He came into the U.S.
> legally from Mexico, as a child. He's married, has
> one child, runs an oil change franchise. He has
> a mortgage and hates to mow the lawn.
>
> He pays his taxes, shows up on time and pays his
> bills.

A little bit of penicillin is good for you - too much and you
die.

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