Re: More on Ecological Economics.

From: Johnny Marcos (johnny5_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/06/04 

Date: Tue, 06 Jul 2004 06:43:43 GMT

hcf32@yahoo.no (O18-C-O16) wrote in
news:5d02cf45.0407051533.2015a573@posting.google.com:

 Your point of views reminds me of a ~100 years old book I once came
> across discussing personality and behavior of different 'local
> breeds' found in Norway.

A pitbull is bred to be aggressive - a datsun to be docile - these are
qualities you can select for in breeding programs, it is a scientific
fact. A jack russell terrier fiesty to get that fox. A greyhound to run
fast and a siberian husky to stay warm. A st bernard etc etc etc ad
infinum.

> My question is what make you so certain that for instance Jerry
> Sienfelds theories:
>
>> Jerry Sienfeld is a smart funny guy - 3000 years of selective
>> breeding as based on old testament doctrine has yielded great fruit.

I give you a book - you and your children follow the lessons in that book
- those lessons just happens to select for certain things in breeding -
what you have at the end can either be a jack russel terrier or a pitbull
or a greyhound - they all are good at specific things - but they are all
dogs. The jack russel terrier and greyhound we can put in the cage
together - give them food - they probably not gonna kill each other -
play as nice puppies - like each other maybe - but the PIT BULL - he is
bred to BITE down on other dogs - put him in that cage and the chances
for violence go up - pure science my jewish friend. I am a jack russel,
you are a greyhound, we get to decide who comes in the cage with us - do
we invite a datsun or a pitbull? Do we invite ANYONE? Do we see that
pitbull starving on the wrong side of the border and feel sorry for him
and bring him into the cage and give him some of our dogfood? Lets say
we do because you and I are nice guys, and that pit bull has puppies and
you and I have puppies - and the pitbull puppies start chomping down on
mine and your puppies - oh but you say - we can reform the little mean
puppies - sure we can - if we start breeding with them we can reduce
those violent tendencies - make them more like us - but if all the
pitbulls go in one corner and start breeding like crazy - and you and I
just have a few jack russel puppies and greyhounds puppies - in a few
generation the pit bull have overpowered our numbers - there is enough
dogfood for everyone but thier innate instinct is to chomp down on me and
you and all our puppies and thier superior number kill me and you and our
puppies and all our peaceful ways and ideas die with us and all the while
you are screaming but there is enough dogfood for everyone - its not
about the dogfood - its who they are. The mexicans will be ok if they
come in the country in a controlled way properly assimilated - but let
them come in too fast - its gonna be ugly. There are immigration
controls in place - we just need better enforcement.

> Isn't just advanced name calling like that found in old textbooks
> influenced by rather nonscientific, self glorifying and dumb social
> darwinism.

Ok the links I provided proved ashkenazi jews scored higher on
standardized tests - we tested them on certain merits of IQ like we did
other population and they had a higher IQ - superior reasoning ability -
that is scientific.

That is not name calling - that is science and it is proved by fact.

Some people have high IQ, some people don't. Now some people have a
problem with current IQ tests - it only test for a very specific IQ - and
they say there are many kinds of IQ - musical IQ - language IQ - math IQ
- and the current IQ tests might only measure how well you take IQ tests
- not how well you are at being a nice benevolent citizen.

But lets be honest my leftie friend, a guy that scores 150 on current IQ
tests collectively gonna do better in society than a guy that score 50 on
a current IQ test. Genetic breakthrough that helps the whole world gonna
be best served by smarties - not dummies.

Everything to advance IQ in a peaceful way helps the world, everything to
slow or reverse IQ growth not so hot in my book.

BUnch of mexicans coming in to America and not being assimilated is not
gonna increase collective IQ. For the short term it lets the smarties do
other work while the mexicans pick their crops - but long term it might
cause civil unrest and violence.