Re: Flat tax proposal

From: Johnny 5 (johnny5_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 07/13/04 

Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:38:30 GMT

royls@telus.net wrote in news:40f38d1c.5099901@news.telus.net:

>>They have the money because they usually did something productive for
>>themselves and society in the past.
>
> Nope. In many if not most cases they have simply placed themselves in
> the path of others who want to do something productive, and charged
> them a fee for not interfering.

Bill gates was not a millionaire when he started, he brought pc software
to the masses, he is not out to get you Roy L, you are so paranoid.

>>RICH -
>
> Copyright monopolies made him rich.

I ask this question for like the 4th time now, you can use linux and the
mozilla browser which are FREE, or MSFT windows and internet explorer -
which one are you CHOOSING to use and WHY? Copyright is not the thing
preventing you from switching, quit lying about that you lazy liar.

> You refuse to understand the importance of land ownership in
> determining people's economic status and future.

You don't live in the real world, I see many people dirt poor with
nothing rise up above it with some elbow grease. How much land did bill
gates own? How much land did lance armstrong own?

> If you own land, you are on the excalator. If you don't, you are in
> the stairwell. It's that simple.

If only it were that black and white and not a billion shades of gray in
between. Many people sell land and rent - why Roy? All they need to do
is own land to make it in this world right?

> ??? Being in Bush's cabinet shows willingness to serve the rich, not
> ability to enter their ranks.

I think condeleeza and colin are in thier RANKS - you are an idiot.

>>Mexico boy next door to me can get rich if he were to learn more and
>>apply himself, but he is happy going to the casino every weekend and
>>blowing his paycheck. I am not, I want to get to a point where I can
>>step off the 9 to 5 elevator. Don't hate my ambition.
>
> There is a difference between ambition and greed.

Whatever idiot, same thing.

> Nope. There are many ways people have acquired wealth without earning

I go to the library and read books, that is my wealth, what is yours
Cain? Have you ever read about cain and able. Wanting what you haven't
got is bad cain, makes you murder people cain, and able is an OK guy.

> it: inheritance,

Estate taxes change in 2010 don't they? You didn't have the privaledge
of being born to a rich inheritance, is that what you are bitter about?

What is your net worth Roy L? Do you work a 5.50 an hour job to pay your
groceries? Do you slave away on your own garden hypocrite?

> crime,

The criminal probably feels it was a lot of work earning his cash.
Without him police men and lawyers would go hungry, we don't want that do
we?

 corruption, luck, sharp practice, dishonesty,
> and most often, being on the receiving end of government-created rent
> collection privileges.

You are gonna give up all your bonds and land to Tonto tomorrow
hypocrite?

>>that is how they got rich and became
>>landowners,
>
> Some did. Many if not most didn't.

Speculation.

> People worked to buy slaves, too. That didn't make slavery right.

SLavery got a lot of blacks out of speer chucking africa where they were
starving, you have already admitted slavery can do good for people. 

-- 
Government policy in interest rates, and on finance generally, has been 
marked by vacillation, wishful thinking, electoral expediency of the most 
shameful type towards the end of last year, contortions and 
contradictions, all to accommodate the redneck economics of the National 
Country Party. (Harsard Aug.27 1981)

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