Re: SSN entitlements, US (still): Population and longevity
From: Rob Duncan (robduncan_at_gbronline.com)
Date: 07/17/04
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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 00:34:50 -0700
I grew up in a town that had MANY farms that require the use of immagrant
labor every year. IF they dont get it theyll go down the toilet. Fact.
Youre just going to have to get used to being polite for a change.
Rob
(Whose lived around, and never had a problem with, a single mexican in his
entire life.)
"Johnny 5" <johnny5@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Rob Duncan" <robduncan@gbronline.com> wrote in
> news:fOCdnR1x5_uWCWXdRVn-vA@gbronline.com:
>
> > Agreed, but your blind as a bat when it comes to the benefits of
> > allowing Mexico-boy to work in the US. Go-on, find me a white
> > American willing to hoe the fields for a living. Yeah, nice try, now
> > tell me we dont need them again, I need a good laugh.
>
> You haven't read my other posts or the links to mises website I have
posted
> about minimum wage, so let me update you to my current ideas on that, I
> dont want to work in the field, I am willing to pay a mexico boy to do it,
> IN MEXICO, not here, and import his cheaper goods for my money and let him
> get richer in MEXICO, if he spoke my language and understood where I was
> coming from, I would be willing to pay him here, but I think it is bad to
> bring in people to work the fields who dont speak english and never will -
> that creates cultural disparity that will fracture the country and weaken
> us all. I see the fights in walmart and at the bars because of mis
> communication. If they would train mexico boy, FORCE him to learn english
> I would remove many of my reservations I have about him now, but they do
> not, I see him in walmart, try to be his friend, talk to him, he doesnt
> speak english - has no need to learn it, it complicates my life, I dont
> want to start learning spanish for the benefit of having cheap labor, I
> want one america, 1 language, not 2. I want to walk into a store and when
> I crack a joke about ren and stimpy everyone gets it because they speak
> english and understand american culture and history. Bringing in people
> that dont understand and never will does not help this. Geeks do not
> typically go into redneck bars with farm workers because when he makes a
> joke about commander taco on slashdot they just do not GET IT, and when
the
> redneck makes a joke about fucking his cousin, the geek doesnt appreciate
> it even though he may get it, different cultures, to a point they are OK,
I
> can hang out with geeks, my preference, I can hang out with rednecks and
> have a good time, not my preference though, but I have found it HARD to
> hang out with non americanized mexicans and not feel like I was about to
> get a knife in my gut - my redneck friend did get a knife in his gut.
>
> I don't like driving through thier communites, being in stores that cater
> to them, I went to mexico last month and got that cold shoulder feeling
all
> over that country, i dont want it here in my country.
>
> --
> Government policy in interest rates, and on finance generally, has been
> marked by vacillation, wishful thinking, electoral expediency of the most
> shameful type towards the end of last year, contortions and
contradictions,
> all to accommodate the redneck economics of the National Country Party.
> (Harsard Aug.27 1981)
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