Re: China's War Machine

From: zerge (zerge_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/21/04 

Date: 21 Jul 2004 10:23:53 -0700

Johnny 5 <johnny5@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<Xns952CB26118B10Johnny5yahoocom@65.32.1.7>...
> zerge@hotmail.com (zerge) wrote in
> news:f0a1621c.0407201129.190785da@posting.google.com:
>
> > Friend, you worry about the Chinese War Machine, while us outside the
> > US (I'm Mexican)
>
> Man I went down to nuevo laredo and lake chapala and a few other places
> and all your people were very unfriendly - what gives? I was coming to
> spread my american money with your locals and they almost acted insulted
> that I was even there. You had GREAT busses though, much better than the
> greyhound we got in the USA, I guess all those exported dollars went into
> some good infrastructure improvement - I was very impressed - hehe.

People where rude to you, you say? Ever thought maybe it's not because
you are an American, but because you are YOU?? :)
Yes our buses are great.

>
> worry about the American War Machine :)
> > Do you realize your country is the biggest, baddest, more
> > out-of-control (for the time being I hope) War Machine in our planet?
> > http://www.geographyiq.com/ranking/ranking_Military_Expenditures_Dollar
> > _figure_dall.htm
>
 
> I also understand I lost a friend during the democratic revolt in china
> and they ran tanks over them. I don't remember in the last 10 years some
> large group of people got tanks rolled over them in such a way in the USA
> - perhaps you could look at Waco however. I don't remember the last time
> I saw a child slave labor sweatshop in america either. But I did see
> little girls in your malls in mexico working at the checkout lines
> bagging groceries and they were only like 10 or 11 - isn't that a little
> young to be working your children? teaching them great work skills at a
> young age I liked it - but my friend thought it was child exploitation.

Oh, just ignorance on your part. Those kids are students, and they
work only a couple of hours a day bagging groceries. They make some
cash, they get to socialize, and they learn about work. It's a relaxed
working environment. So no, it's not child exploitation. Mexico has
very progressive labor laws. One of the few aspects of our legal
system that actually gets enforced.

>
> Also I feel the thug rap music is causing violence in the USA, and i went
> down to your mall one day in guadalajara and there was all these nice
> girls that had just got out of school wearing thier catholic uniforms and
> there was a mexican band playing some nice folk music and it seemed
> really nice and cohesive of community - but on the other end of the mall
> they were playing music by this rap artist called 50 cents and he was
> singing BITCH WILL NOT GET ANOTHER MOTHER FUCKING DOLLAR OUT OF ME and I
> dont understand why you play this music at a concert in your mall with
> your sweet little catholic girls?? What is that supposed to teach them?
>

LOL you are funny! :)
Who in Mexico understands rap lyrics in English anyway?? I can hardly
understand, and I speak perfect English.

> > Have you thought that maybe such a huge military budget threatens
> > China, which in response builds up its arsenal just to TRY to balance
> > things a bit?
>
> But that is a logical fallacy, we got the nUKES first, so anyone that
> ever tries to do an arms race with us will LOSE as russia did and break
> thier own economy in the process, we got them FIRST, the world needs to
> convince us we need to get rid of ours, so we will willingly disarm,
> trying to start an arms race with us can only end in one way - YOU
> LOSING, its not an AMERICAN thing, if GERMANY had got the bomb first we
> would all be speaking german and america would have to adopt the same
> tactic, get the german leaders feeling bad they have nukes and to
> willingly disarm. Fighting violence and stupidity with more violence and
> stupidty is bad for the guy that came in second and third in the arms
> race.
>
> > My hypothesis is that if the US where to reduce its military budget
> > and aggressive stand, the rest of the world would follow suit.
> > Who knows.
>
> It will never work like that, all the rest of you are going to have to
> put down your guns first or at least at the same time - we will NEVER do
> it first and dont have too, then when we feel SAFE, we will put ours
> down, we got more guns, bigger guns, we got them first, you will comply,
> you will make us feel bad for having guns and you have sticks, and then
> we will put down our own guns, but if you start and arms race with a
> stupid redneck and he has all the rifles, you just gonna get shot up real
> bad.
>
> Perhaps if we all disarmed simultaneously, we dont need enough nukes to
> blow the world up 10 times over - 2 times over is plenty. I would vote
> for .5 times over, that way no matter what happens at least some people
> live.

Hey, so we got ourselves a worldwide Mexican standoff! :)

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