Re: Why Chavez Won a Landslide Victory

From: Righteous Nation (bush1helpedkiilljfk_at_cia.com)
Date: 08/30/04 

Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2004 22:54:33 -0400

In article <41315d2e.1250336@news.telus.net>, royls@telus.net wrote:

> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 17:36:09 -0400, Righteous Nation
> <bush1helpedkiilljfk@cia.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <f0a1621c.0408271258.3ebdb328@posting.google.com>,
> > zerge@hotmail.com (zerge) wrote:
> >
> >> royls@telus.net wrote in message news:<412e2a8a.4964451@news.telus.net>...
> >> > On 26 Aug 2004 09:51:40 -0700, zerge@hotmail.com (zerge) wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >royls@telus.net wrote in message
> >> > >news:<41268ce5.27409096@news.telus.net>...
> >> > >> On 19 Aug 2004 11:37:05 -0700, zerge@hotmail.com (zerge) wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> >I'm not saying that Venezuela's loans are soft though; I don't have
> >> > >> >the facts.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Do you have a dictionary?
> >> > >
> >> > >You are ABsolutely right. It isn't socialism. It's populism of the
> >> > >worst
> >> > >kind.
> >> >
> >> > So far, the results have not been too bad, let alone "worst." We'll
> >> > see what happens, though.
> >>
> >> That's because Venezuela just got started in the populism ride. As I
> >> said, they are like Mexico back in the 70s. So I guess we Mexicans are
> >> 30 years ahead of the learning curve.
> >
> >Chavez, like Jefferson, follows a Whig line. 1910 was Mexico's "Whig"
> >revolution. Caesaropapism has gained back much in Mexico and now rules
> >the U.S..
>
> I tend to agree that Madero's 1911 election win (in probably the most
> honest election in Mexican history) was Mexico's short-lived chance,
> and bears a greater resemblance to the current Venezuelan situation
> than the 70s (including the nature of US involvement). For further
> details See
>
> http://www.mexconnect.com/mex_/history/jtuck/jtmaderofi.html
>
> But when I look at Chavez, he mystifies me. I don't know if he is
> another Madero or another Castro.
>
> -- Roy L

The "Great Divide" in history is between caesaropapism, that to which
Jefferson referred as "thousands and thousands of years of despotism,"
and those in opposition: Whigs...no king, no pope...The New Secular
Order.

Castro opposed the Roman hierarchy. Rome's power in Washington was
enough to generate a Knight of Malta-led CIA's evil with the help of
Porter Goss; George HW Bush and their assassination of JFK.

Whig interpretation is the only effective tool. Butterfield was just
running interference for Roman Hitler. 

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