TURMEL: Lyin Bill Ryan can't put up

From: John Turmel (bc726_at_FreeNet.Carleton.CA)
Date: 10/02/04 

Date: 2 Oct 2004 14:50:26 GMT

JCT: A few days ago, I mentioned a Bill Ryan as a monetary
reformer I had regularly defeated in debate. He was a
perfect foil for my barbs even if he came across as a nut.
Our debate went on over a dozen posts and I beat him up so
badly that his only card left was to start alleging I
couldn't produce my engineering degree. Even last week:
     
>Article #3056
>From: william_b_ryan@hotmail.com (Bill Ryan)
>Newsgroups: alt.fan.john-turmel,can.politics,alt.gambling,
>alt.drugs,sci.econ,sci.engr,alt.conspiracy
>Subject: Re: TURMEL: LETS cooperate on Zarlenga?
>Date: 27 Sep 2004 03:32:55 -0700
 
[John "The Con-Man" Turmel] Sure my Miracle Equation
U(min)=J(min)=I/(P+I) shows a solution is I=0 but the
difference in the Laplace Transforms shows any engineer that
there is only one unstable positive feedback loop.
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But that would have to leave out John Turmel since he
is not and has never been an engineer. Just a fraud.

JCT: I responded to his allegation last December:

>JCT: #2 Waiting for Lyin Ryan to put up

Bill Ryan (william_b_ryan@hotmail.com) writes:
> Okay, Johnny - why don't YOU post your Carleton
> transcript. You post everything else and spam every
> group you can think of with your junk that nobody
> cares about - becoming in the process the stereotype
> of what's wrecking the Internet. What's stopping you
> from posting your Carleton transcript? Then we will take
> step two and confirm it with Carleton.

>JCT: What have I got to gain by running around disproving
Lyin Ryan? I told him to bet $100 against my $1000 that he
was truthing. No bet. Just more blab. I told him to bet $50
against my $1000 if he was truthing? No bet. Just more blab.
Anyway, just do a search at Google Groups to see how this
demented non-social credit lunatic is reacting to having to
keep backing down from my bet. He won't put up and he won't
shut up. Coward. What's he trying to do? Get me kicked out
of the Carleton Alumni Club?

JCT: So, because I wouldn't prove my education to his
satisfaction without his betting, and despite his backing
down from that bet, he's still repeating the same false
allegation that I don't have a 1976 Bachelor's degree in
Electrical Engineering (B.Eng.) from Carleton University.

Despite his repeatedly backing down from my bets in all our
discussions, Mr."Giving Social Credit a bad name" reformer
of banking systems engineering continues to proclaim the lie
he didn't have the balls to bet on last year.

So I just want to remind everyone that Lyin Ryan has still
never bet on one point in all our disagreements over a dozen
posts. His posts on engineering show that he's a complete
mathematical idiot which makes the fact he's been taken
seriously by some Socreds so hilarious. As if they never ran
across the debates where Ryan kept running from Turmel.

Anyway, the man's a nut who never put his money where his
mouth was and yet is still willing to mouth off his lies in
public. It says a lot about a person. Reminds me of Richard
Lake who censors marijuana news at mapinc.org

>JCT: If someone slows me down, I crush their brains.
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This poor delusional crank.

JCT: And Bill Ryan just happens to be someone whose brains I
have really really crushed in the past. I flashed cash in
his face so often, and he backed down so regularly, it
almost became a charade. Other than Professor Flaherty,
there no economic reformer out there whose brains I have
crushed so often and so completely. I had the group laughing
at so many of his stupid statements that he became more and
more demented. His repeating a lie he was challenged on and
could not back up makes my point sufficiently. It lets me
challenge him to put his money where his mouth is once again
so I and the whole Internet world can watch him back down
once again.

Debating online wouldn't be so much fun without people I
call "gnurds" willing to be the foil for my barbs without
realizing it. I even enjoy re-reading my put-downs of him,
no matter he's a nut. The fact he is taken seriously by some
money reformers makes it all that much more fun to prove
he's nuts by making him back down from the same bet be
backed down from last year.

If there's anyone else who has more nerve than No-balls Bill
and would like to put up $50 against my $1000 to make worth
my while to scan and post my diploma, go ahead. I'm not
going to post my degree just because Bill Ryan accuses me of
not having it. I'd rather rather keep him hoping he's right
as long as it gives me the opportunity to make him back down
in public again and again and again.
 
I think the fact he won't bet $50 on his repeated allegation
has to indicate that he knows it's not true. Okay Bill. I'll
give you a better deal. I bet $1000 to $10, not $50, that I
have the engineering degree that you question. At 100:1,
maybe you'll find the balls to back up what you allege.
You're getting a deal Bill. For the mere cost of losing $10,
you can make sure you won't have to get caught lying in
public any more. Quite a deal. Just say "bet." 

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for UNILETS interest-free time-based currency in U.N. resolution C6
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