Re: force him to live with the consequences

From: Mason A. Clark (masoncNOT_at_THISix.netcom.comQQQ)
Date: 10/27/04 

Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 08:18:57 GMT

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:23:12 GMT, William F Hummel <wfhummel@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 06:20:44 GMT, Mason A. Clark
><masoncNOT@THISix.netcom.comQQQ> wrote:
>>
>>"probably no American president in history has been so universally hated abroad
>>as Bush" and says the only possible good reason there could be for re-electing
>>him is "to force him to live with the consequences of his appalling actions and
>>answer for his own lies, rather than wish the job on a Democrat who would then
>>get blamed for his predecessor's follies.
>>
>> British spy novelist John Le Carre
>>
>> ( In a Los Angeles Times op-ed piece. )
>>
>>
>>Kerry, the Democratic party, and all that is liberal will
>>be destroyed in less than four years if Kerry becomes President.
>
>Mason,
>
>Surely you are kidding. The consequences apply to the people.
>Four more years under Bush will create such unrest at home as to
>seriously threaten the social fabric of the nation, ala Vietnam and
>probably worse. Bush's only answer to the mess he created in Iraq is
>to "stay the course", no doubt with the same bunch of neo-cons calling
>the shots. Things have been getting steadily worse there, with no end
>in sight.
>
>It is imperative that we develop new approaches to the mess in Iraq.
>It certainly won't happen under a Bush, supremely confident in his
>decisions because he listens to a "higher father." The mess cannot be
>solved through military means. Islamic extremists can launch a
>never-ending round of suicide missions, assassinations, kidnappings,
>and beheadings that will drive our few remaining allies away. Our
>troops will continue to fall without any real gain.
>
>The notion that the Sunnis, Shias, and Kurds can unite in a stable
>democratic government is naive. They have long been killing each
>other, and the revenge motive runs high. It may be that another Iraqi
>strong man has to emerge in a bloody civil war before some order is
>restored. Or it may be that Iraq will have to fracture into three
>separate nations. One thing however is certain, the US presence there
>has to end before there is any chance that Islamic extremism in Iraq
>subsides.
>
>On the home front, the next president may very well be appointing
>three new Supreme Court justices. Bush has already declared his
>admiration for Scalia and Thomas, thereby indicating what we can
>expect from him if he is reelected. This is another long term threat
>because those appointees will be around for twenty years or so.
>
>Bush's economic and environmental policies are also a disaster. He
>has declared his intention to further cut taxes in a way that will
>exacerbate the wealth gap. He is opening up formerly protected areas
>in the West to exploitation. He has thumbed his nose at any attempt
>to deal with the growing climate problem. Ultimately that may be the
>most important failure in terms of its effect on future generations.

Everything above is correct.

What will be the nature of the four years under President Kerry?
I predict (delete that) Kerry will preside over a devastating
failure in the Middle East. Iraq will be in a civil war better
called "anarchy" -- no one in charge. Or Iraq will become
an Islamist state like Iran after the fall of the Shah. In either
case it will be a huge base for Islamist terrorism.

  By the way did any of you see the movie "Not Without My Daughter?
  It was the most frightening movie I've ever seen -- even knowing
  in advance the good outcome.

The Israel-Palestine war is now insoluble and will persist through
the four years.

The oil supply from the Middle East will be uncertain so oil
prices will climb. Even without China coming on line.

The control of Congress will remain where it is regardless of
Democratic or Republican majorities. Therefore outsourcing of
production and some services will continue and unemployment will
be severe. Therefore real wages will continue to creep down for
all except top management and the populace will be restless.

After four years of Kerry presidency a very conservative
Republican era will begin. As the South switched from solidly
Democratic to solidly Republican after Johnson, so the Nation
will shift to "conservative" after Kerry.

The fall of the Republic.

  Bleed now or bleed to death later.

   Now we're on record. I'll archive it.

    Let's review in 2008.

          Mason C

 

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