Re: Clinton, aesthetics and American libertarianism
From: Cactus88 (up_at_the.saloon)
Date: 12/17/04
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 03:33:11 GMT
ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote,
in post news:1102963070.379617.118290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
:
> Clinton created a class of Democratic businessmen and professionals;
> Bush is creating a class of Republican government workers. This may
> eventually lead to the parties trading places and ideologies. In the
> meanwhile it gave business the idealistic perspective of liberals and
> is giving government the discipline of conservatives. Both are very
> much needed.
>
> Unlike many on the left, I do not seek to destroy America or the
> Western civilization. I seek to enrich both of the above using the
> mechanisms currently available without seeking a change of systems.
> The free market allows people to buy what they value. If the people,
> as they do in such places as France, Spain and San Francisco, value
> beauty in all its forms, then they use the mechanism of free-market
> capitalism to create a magnificent civilization - a civilization that
> is rich with the bounty and talent of humanity and makes of it the
> most that it is capable of producing; a civilization that makes the
> best of man and builds upon nature to consummate it in manmade works
> and environments that reflect the most inspired and most wise and
> most true in man. The artist thrives in capitalism when the
> capitalist society values beauty. I believe America will be enriched,
> and its experience lent dignity and quality and color, if America
> learns to value beauty in all things, from nature to people's souls
> to architecture, sculpture, painting, literature and technology.
>
> I repeat. I seek not a change in systems but a change in priorities. I
> see nothing at all contradictory between free-market capitalism and
> aesthetic beauty; quite to the contrary, if people value beauty in all
> its forms then they will create demand for it in the economy and use
> their consumption decisions to reward talent and use it to enrich the
> civilization and create the most magnificent civilization that ever
> existed. Capitalism allows people to make their values known in their
> physical and social environment; and if people value what's good and
> resplendent then they will create a civilization that is rich with
> such things.
>
> Therefore I am in no way a Communist. However I have nothing but
> contempt for the people who see American federal government as the
> main source of oppression and say they want government of their backs
> - especially since most of these people come from states that receive
> huge government subsidies. Without the government subsidies these
> coddled violent heavy-handed farmers and oilmen would have to compete
> with millions of people in the Third World and, like programmers and
> manufacturers in Democratic states, face global competition without
> government coddling like the real men they say they are. The freedom
> these people want is the freedom to grossly mistreat, mislead and
> misinform everyone in their communities without the checks on
> barbarism, falsehood, atrocity and oppression that the American
> government offers its citizens - even the citizens that the so-called
> communities, as most communities do, want to use as scapegoats and
> repositories of their psychic garbage.
>
> I therefore see American libertarianism and anti-government
> conservatism to be somewhere between foolishness, hypocrisy and sheer
> wickedness, and in most cases all three at once.
>
> Ilya Shambat.
Another broad brushed painter of the region-bigot school.
Idiot
Cactus88
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