Re: Clinton, aesthetics and American libertarianism

From: Cactus88 (up_at_the.saloon)
Date: 12/17/04

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         ilya_shambat2004@yahoo.com wrote,
         in post news:1102963070.379617.118290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
    :
    > Clinton created a class of Democratic businessmen and professionals;
    > Bush is creating a class of Republican government workers. This may
    > eventually lead to the parties trading places and ideologies. In the
    > meanwhile it gave business the idealistic perspective of liberals and
    > is giving government the discipline of conservatives. Both are very
    > much needed.
    >
    > Unlike many on the left, I do not seek to destroy America or the
    > Western civilization. I seek to enrich both of the above using the
    > mechanisms currently available without seeking a change of systems.
    > The free market allows people to buy what they value. If the people,
    > as they do in such places as France, Spain and San Francisco, value
    > beauty in all its forms, then they use the mechanism of free-market
    > capitalism to create a magnificent civilization - a civilization that
    > is rich with the bounty and talent of humanity and makes of it the
    > most that it is capable of producing; a civilization that makes the
    > best of man and builds upon nature to consummate it in manmade works
    > and environments that reflect the most inspired and most wise and
    > most true in man. The artist thrives in capitalism when the
    > capitalist society values beauty. I believe America will be enriched,
    > and its experience lent dignity and quality and color, if America
    > learns to value beauty in all things, from nature to people's souls
    > to architecture, sculpture, painting, literature and technology.
    >
    > I repeat. I seek not a change in systems but a change in priorities. I
    > see nothing at all contradictory between free-market capitalism and
    > aesthetic beauty; quite to the contrary, if people value beauty in all
    > its forms then they will create demand for it in the economy and use
    > their consumption decisions to reward talent and use it to enrich the
    > civilization and create the most magnificent civilization that ever
    > existed. Capitalism allows people to make their values known in their
    > physical and social environment; and if people value what's good and
    > resplendent then they will create a civilization that is rich with
    > such things.
    >
    > Therefore I am in no way a Communist. However I have nothing but
    > contempt for the people who see American federal government as the
    > main source of oppression and say they want government of their backs
    > - especially since most of these people come from states that receive
    > huge government subsidies. Without the government subsidies these
    > coddled violent heavy-handed farmers and oilmen would have to compete
    > with millions of people in the Third World and, like programmers and
    > manufacturers in Democratic states, face global competition without
    > government coddling like the real men they say they are. The freedom
    > these people want is the freedom to grossly mistreat, mislead and
    > misinform everyone in their communities without the checks on
    > barbarism, falsehood, atrocity and oppression that the American
    > government offers its citizens - even the citizens that the so-called
    > communities, as most communities do, want to use as scapegoats and
    > repositories of their psychic garbage.
    >
    > I therefore see American libertarianism and anti-government
    > conservatism to be somewhere between foolishness, hypocrisy and sheer
    > wickedness, and in most cases all three at once.
    >
    > Ilya Shambat.

    Another broad brushed painter of the region-bigot school.
    Idiot

    Cactus88


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