Re: Distribution & Redistribution

From: Ron Allen (rallen2_at_bellsouth.net)
Date: 12/25/04 

Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 17:17:49 -0500

Ron Allen wrote:
> Yes, this is true. I have never denied this
> truth. But good also lives. And freedom also
> exists. There is evil that can be stopped.

Robert J. Kolker wrote:
> Yoda says: Do not hold your breath Young Ron, or
> purple turn you will.

jmhall@apex.home.net wrote:
> You seem to be saying that it's not worth trying
> to improve one's lot in life or the condition of
> the world in general. Are you a nihlist?

Ron Allen wrote:
> Mr. Kolker is perhaps a pessimistic negativist.
> To believe that human evil is fully triumphant,
> and finally victorious over moral freedom and
> human goodness is negativism, not nihilism. One
> can be a nihilist, and still believe in the
> moral possibilities of human freedom.

jmhall@apex.home.net wrote:
> No they cannot, at least not as these terms are
> being used here--but you are possibly correct
> that I misused the term. Apparently you also
> misunderstand it though.

Ron Allen wrote:
> Nihilism is not anti-morality, unless the
> morality is absolutist and/or eternalistic.
> Nihilists believe that morality is a human
> creation, but not . . .

jmhall@apex.home.net wrote:
> No. Nihlist don't belive morality exists.

Ron Allen answers:
There are nihilists who are mindless idiots.

Morality does exist; but, in my opinion, morality
is not a divine creation. Morality is a creation
of human beings. I believe this, my opinion of
morality is consistent with general philosophical
nihilism.

jmhall@apex.home.net wrote:
> The only thing that exists will be the arbitrary
> view of the person. That is not the same.

Ron Allen answers:
If morality exists as the arbitrary opinions of
individual persons, then morality does exist.

The nihilist does not believe God exists; but, the
nihilist does believe that the God-idea does exist
as a creation of human beings.

So also, the generic nihilist believes that moral
ideas exist as the ideational creations of human
beings.

Ron Allen wrote:
> . . . a divine creation. Most nihilists see
> morality as a kind of aesthetic accomplishment.
> Ethics is seen as a life that is lived
> beautifully. The good and the beautiful are
> tantamount to the same thing. The moral good is
> a matter of good taste.

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"American freedom consists largely in talking
nonsense."
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