Re: Free land in the heartland

From: Peter Lawrence (peterl_at_netlink.com.au)
Date: 12/27/04

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    imouttahere@mac.com wrote:
    >
    > something from churchill and the age of 30 comes to mind.
    >
    > believe me, I fully understand got-mine/screw-you conservatives'
    > sociopathic outlook; at some point it is very tempting to cut your
    > losses on the human race, go with the flow & partake in the evil like
    > you so admirably exemplify here.

    Isn't that what the name "imouttahere" suggests?

    But that's not conservative. Real conservatives are like Disraeli and fully
    appreciate the difficulties. Our clothing has been stolen and we have been
    marginalised by all these wolves in sheep's clothing giving us a bad name.

    >
    > but I believe the openloop nature (dual intergenerational feedback
    > loops of wealth concentration and dispossession) of unjust capitalism
    > will prove just as fatal to this, our, society as any Maoist state
    > would effect.

    The sneaky stability of these oppressive systems comes from their having a
    middle class of people for whom change is too high risk, with the real losers
    being classed as outsiders with no effective vote and not enough
    numbers/strength to matter, but without really being on the outside with
    other opportunities of their own. Then the real gainers have vested interests
    helping them, and don't have their hands full from exploiting. It was the
    perioeci who made the Spartan system work - the Spartans could never have
    oppressed the helots just by themselves. In the dark ages it was earls,
    churls and thralls. Apartheid was an example of doing it wrong, in the sense
    of ineffectively.

    In general the system derives from a distortion of the pecking order of
    tribal systems, enlarged to swallow up and oppress outsiders by surrounding
    them and depriving them of a backing of their own (the old testament
    occasionally mentions the fate of the post-conquest Jebusites in Jerusalem
    after the Jews took it from them).

    >
    > I don't have children, but I have young relations that I'd like to see
    > inherit a better world.

    Under this sort of system, they could hope to become or to stay middle class.
    PML. 

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