Re: Why socialized medicine is inevitable

From: sinister (sinister_at_nospam.invalid)
Date: 02/27/05 

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:45:16 GMT

"robert j. kolker" <nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:37usafF5e85c7U1@individual.net...
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> sinister wrote:
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>> Unless you want to continue buffing up your reputation as a rabid
>> anti-empiricist, please provide links to any evidence that the main
>> empirical claim in the article---that the VHA is now providing
>> high-quality health care---is wrong.
> High quality in comparison to what? Who made the determination. By what
> objective criteria? Why should I believe this?

I didn't ask you to believe it. I asked you to provide evidence to the
contrary.

Which you failed to do.

> Even granting the point there is no assurance that the government will
> supply high quality care nationwide to everyone. Governments have a very
> bad record in quality and efficiency.

Depends. The government's disbursement of Social Security benefits is
extremely efficient, far more efficient than any comparable activity in the
private sector.

> Let me ask you a question. Would you like the entire food production and
> distribution system of the counry government run? Would you expect to be

No.

Note, however, that food =/= health care. This obvious fact has been
pointed out to you repeatedly before; for some reason unbeknownst to me, you
refuse to acknowledge it.

> as well fed? Do you want the workers in the local food store to be
> government employees? If government is so great why not have it run
> everything?

I never said the government should run everything. I did say we'd be better
off, overall, if the government ran health care.

You're committing the logical fallacy of "false dilemma," because you're
arguing that either the government is good at running everything, or the
government is good at running nothing:
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/false-dilemma.html

>
> Bob Kolker
>

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