Re: Wages Vs Prices

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:10:55 -0700, "The Trucker" <mikcob@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>"Les Cargill" <lNOcargill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>news:w4jbe.31451$_t3.12252@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> The Trucker wrote:
>>
>> The Bad Part is that the Left cannot counter it,
>> because they literally have nothing interesting
>> to say, beyond enforced platitudes and proceduralism.

The left, which has no raison d'etre but to advance equality in
opposition to privilege, committed intellectual suicide 100 years ago,
when it accepted union privilege as a payoff for shutting up about
landowner privilege.

>I recently read an online document put together by
>someone who I feel must have been a rightard or
>a far right apologist. (s)he tried to describe the central
>difference between the right and the left. On the
>right (s)he had "resist evil" and on the left, "nurture".

As you say, that is garbage. The left is egalitarian, or it is
nothing. That means it opposes privilege. The right is elitist or it
is nothing. That means it defends privilege. The central issue is
privilege. That is what the left has forgotten.

>On the right was justified power/strength as the means
>to resist or stop evil and also justified was punishment
>of those who are weak or who might succumb to evil
>as ways to make them become strong and evil
>resistant. (S)he insisted on painting the left as a bunch
>of nurturing feminists willing to put up with whiners
>and slobs in the hope that they will improve.
>
>This picture sucks and is a lie.

Or at least an error. I'd have to see the terms in which this notion
is couched to judge whether the error is deliberate.

>The central focus of
>_left_ is not nurturing at all. The central focus of
>left is JUSTICE.

No, it is equality. Because left means egalitarian (logically
concluding with forced leveling) and right means elitist (logically
including enforced privilege), justice occupies the center.

>And it is most certainly all wrapped
>up in _economic_ justice. It is not about welfare to
>a bunch of slovenly ne're-do-wells, but about such
>things as opportunity for education and opportunity
>for finance in one's endeavors toward self reliance
>and one's desire to accummulate property as one
>contributes to the greater good.

Yes, a level playing field, at the very least. Though the
big-government left does of course go the forced leveling route.

>The wife says that the central focus is freedom and
>I might be convinced.

Historically, the left began and continued for centuries being
fundamentally about opposition to (freedom from?) privilege. The
right was the defender of the privilege-based social-economic order
derived from feudalism.

>In my discussions with other,
>so called, liberals it seems that many of them are
>focussed on decrying the injustice of the rightards
>but not in any way willing to belly up to
>the bar and take a _positive_ approach. Lots of
>whining about how things are and no real plan or
>suggested organization that will promote true justice,
>freedom and liberty.

I have found the same thing here. Today's left is utterly clueless,
and utterly ignorant of its historical, moral and philosophical roots.
By accepting government-granted privileges for unions,
cash-for-indolence welfare systems, and especially high and
progressive taxation of earned income, the left has sold not only its
birthright but its brain and soul for a mess of privilege.

-- Roy L
.

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