Re: An admonition

The Trucker wrote:

"Les Cargill" <lNOcargill@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:nAQPe.64064$Yx1.50168@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Mason A. Clark wrote:


We sometimes lapse our logic.

The phenomenons of "global warming" , "globalization of economies" ,
"outsourcing" , etcetera are *not* the decisions of corporations.

They are the decisions of governments -- politicians -- (under the influence of corporations perhaps). But in the most important nations -- democracies -- the politicians are *chosen* by the people. George W. Bush being an outstanding example, Bill Clinton another.

Don't blame the corporations for what the *people* decide.

Mason C the solution is?

Good luck selling that line of thought. I'd agree, by the way. 


In this country there are two parties that dominate (or
there is,at least, the appearance of two parties).  Viable
candidates are selected based on how much money they
can raise for The Party. So these people who "decide"
will be deciding between which of the two bought and
paid for politicians they can stomach.  These are the
only sows in the pen because that is what the TwoParty
does by design and intent.


Right. And the alternative is a system of coalition
governments, such as in Italy.

The United States was not actually designed to work
that way. 


But this way actually works. Isn't the old saw
"laws and sausages..."?

Neither the people who drafted or the>> folks that
> ratified the Constitution wanted or intended
this sorry result. 

By the time Jefferson was elected, there were two
parties. England had two or more parties,
essentially two.

> And it happened due to various 
cracks in the masonry.  The 16th and 17th amendments
destroyed states rights and the decision by the House
to limit membership to 435 sealed the control of
the TwoParty.


It also kept the House manageable. The level of population
growth was not something anyone could have anticipated.

Also, FWIW, the House assures the rural states are *over*
represented, which puts things on more a plebescite
footing than would party organs from urban centers
running things. It creates Centers of Pork
Excellence, but there's certainly representation.


The common people are not represented
and they have no chance of ever being represented
until the limit to House Membership is changed to
reflect the intent of the Constitution.


Poll data consistently show the common people *are*
represented, and the person arguably most adept at
interpeting opinion poll data in favor of getting
his candidate elected is none other than Karl Rove.

Carville showed smiliar talent, so the Dems ... don't
use him anymore. *Sigh*.

I'm sorry; it is not true that present elected officials
are not representative. That's a much easier way to
look at it, but it simply isn't true.

--
Les Cargill
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