Re: Why the US is attempting to democratize the rest of the world

"Phil Scott" <philscott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> The US promotes democracy because it doesn't work...our founding fathers
> called that form of govt 'mob-ocracy'... and founded instead a *republic.
> None of our founding fathers had a single good thing to say about democracy.
> They worked hard to eliminate the possiblity of one ever arising in the US.


Just to clarify:
http://www.greatervoice.org/econ/quotes/American_Republic.php

"(This republicanism of the 1780's was not in principle different from what in
Britain and America by mid-nineteenth century was generally called
representative democracy. The founders would not have been opposed to modern
connotations of the word "democracy", nor would they have used the word
"republic" to mark out a distinction from those connotations. In scorning
"democracy", eighteenth-century theorists had in mind Aristotle's picture of a
heedless, emotional, manipulated populace that would still be denigrated by most
modern democratic theorists)."


> However we have perverted our republic to an almost pure democracy and have
> ruined ourselves as predicted .... by voting all kinds of benefits at the
> other fellows expense... civil service bloat and fraud etc.

This is pure rubbish of the worst sort. It is actually a lack of
representation for the average people in the society that
causes this problem.

http://www.greatervoice.org/econ/glossary/Aristocratic_Imperative.php


> That has bankrupted us and had been predicted of all pure democracies from the
> greek times forward. We have created a massive non productive blood sucker
> class.

But it is not the "class" to which you allude. The amount paid
out to corporate welfare far exceeds the amounts spend on
welfare for the disadvantaged.

> Now its too late to repair ... rot is like that, once it softens the main
> sinues, only a death, decay, and rebirth cycle works.

I think it can be fixed.

> However....... if we can democratize the rest of the world, enough collapse,
> death, decay and corruption will ensue to mask our own for a bit longer,
> creating a massive cluster fornication that few will figure out... for a
> while at least..

He's really wailing now!!!

> ...... well except for the muslims and chinese, these know the cycle well and
> are waiting like vultures in the wings for dinner.

Good grief! I'll buy the Chinese part but it is still a bit
more complicated than you propose.

> The chinese are waiting calmly and with respect for the soon to be fallen...
> and the Muslims are waiting in glee at each new catastrophy as they see 'the
> great satan' eat its own young...

It's called new age Republicanism. One lie covers the
last.

> catastrophy's we bring on ourselves .. plain to see and even admitted now by
> the GWB administration on the issue of the Iraq mess. They lied.

And if we had proper representation they would not have
gotten away with it.

> This will most likely be the end of the neocon mess.
>
> These guys put their *** in the meat grinder, then plugged it in. Our
> glorious enemies having to refrain from laughing themselves to death.

Unfortunately they put OUR *** in the meat grinder with
the help of the wacko religious Reich.

> I see similar tactics used on government engineering and construction
> projects... the deliberate generation of massive chaos, warfare, emnity and
> confusion... it hides the rip offs.
>

Yep. Now take a look at non-government Haliburton.

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
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