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"nospam" <nospam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Just Cocky wrote:

More politicians imply more corruption. Anyone that thinks otherwise
has been smoking something very, very powerful.

Actually no. Of course you already figured out that what you write does not
make any sense. But just in case:

The ability of a briber to influence the outcome by corruption decrease with
the number of representatives.

I think you must have misspelled something here:

Representatives = the people that vote on legislation and a subset
of which actually create or modify (amend) legislation.

The Constituency = Normally the people who elect each representative
within a single member (supposedly geograpically compact) district.

So as the number of representative decrease then the more power
is held by each representative and the effectiveness of bribing
a single representative or two such representatives is increased.
With more representatives the respect for honesty and integrity
decreases the effect of the bad apples and even witthout that the
cost of briber increase dramatically.

There is a certain threshold the briber must
pay for a politician to take the risk and be corrupted. This is a personal
level. To influence the outcome you must bribe a certain percent of
constituency. If the constituency is very large, you have to spend huge
amounts of money for that, and it may not be worth. If the constituency is
small you can bribe a few and get what you want.

Yep.

The problem I have with large constituency is the efficiency. I just can not
imagine how a 60,000 representatives, crowding Capitol like ants, will
actually get anything done :-)

I cannot immagine 60K representatives either, but I don't see that
it would be an insurmountable problem even with that large a
number.

From GreaterVoice.org "frequently asked questions"

Order In The House
The existence of speaker and chairpersons and committee members and the other
organizational devices in the the House of Representatives are essential to the
functioning of that body. Without such internal organization no group of
individuals exceeding half a dozen would produce but a continuing disorder. And
the committees and the general structure of the House would not be altered in
any way by Constitutionally Appropriate Representation. Most if not all of the
house members would retain their current stations in the House and we would see
business as usual as regards the day to day mechanics of legislation. Any who
have ever witnessed Cspan will immediately be impressed by the emptiness of the
House chamber, and then perhaps wonder where all of those votes come from as
they are tabulated on the screen. It seems that electronic voting, currently in
place, will allow the larger membership to vote on legislation just as is
currently the case. It takes no longer to count 5 or 6 thousand electronically
registered votes than it does to count 435.


Accommodating Membership Size
With the exception of being a convenient gathering point for various social
functions such as presidential appearances, the House Chamber has more or less
been outdated by secure electronic voting, video conferencing, and even open
television such as Cspan. With secure connections that are trivial in light of
today's technology there is simply no reason to herd all of the House members
into a room where they are easier targets for the special interests that inhabit
the lobby. If the intent of the House of Representatives was the representation
of special interests then this might be appropriate. But the members of the
House are elected to represent us. And there is no compelling reason for the
House membership to even office themselves inside the Beltway in Washington D.C.



Where Representatives Abide
Representatives that do not form the committee structures of the House would, in
all probability, maintain their offices in the districts they represent. And why
not? They can observe the presentations on the floor of the House Chamber and
have instant access to the full text of any pending legislation. There is no
reason why video conferencing should not be employed to allow them to address
the assembly within the house and all of the members across the nation just as
though they and the members were physically located in the House Chamber itself.
All of these representatives are accountable to their constituencies and should
be accessible to them. Any voter should be able to peacefully picket the office
of his Representative and politely voice his opinion of existing legislation or
pending legislation being considered by the membership of the House.


Why More Representatives Are Needed
The internal organization and structure of the House of Representatives provides
for the ascendancy of individuals who possess a breadth of experience and
perhaps a capacity for deliberation that ordinary members would normally lack.
Efforts on the part of parties and special interests to place particular
advocates into this hierarchy of power have always operated in the House and
will doubtless continue. But the existence of many additional voting members of
a less august and more common nature will check these cabals and intrigues. With
the power to defeat legislation that is not in the common good held in the hands
of a majority of the members who are more easily challenged and unseated, the
power inherent in hierarchical and/or aristocratic designs is controlled so as
to become ineffectual but for furthering the common good. Extended
representation insures that, through their more accessible and more easily
challenged representatives, the people will hold a negative on legislation
produced by such "committees of deliberate and enlightened men".

--
"I know no safe depository of the ultimate powers
of society but the people themselves; and
if we think them not enlightened enough to
exercise their control with a wholesome
discretion, the remedy is not to take it from
them, but to inform their discretion by
education." - Thomas Jefferson
http://GreaterVoice.org


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