Re: Laissez-Faire Capitalism Discourages Altruism & Rewards Amoral People?

Michael Price wrote:

Non sequitur, there are pleny of ways that the moral have an
advantage in the free market.

No. Market is amoral be default.
So, there is only a way: Others to see it and like you because of that.
Otherwise, in marketplace morality is just yet another form of marketing.
At least have the courage to acknowledge the truth.

By dumping I assume you mean predatory pricing, which historically
has rarely worked.

Really ? Are you serious ? Do you expect anyone to believe what you say ?

Ask thousands and thousands of (previously prosperous) Mom & Pop businesses
from towns where WalMart kicked in.

Why all the fanatic radical right always hide from the truth and always make
unfounded statements ?

Bull***, even assuming that government interventions is required to
allow
fair play (and that's rarely the result of it) the people opposing
State intervention
to prevent fraud or force are anarcho-capitalists, not all
libertarians.


Libertarianism is the closest ideology to anarcho-capitalism see it
organized. And if you look in these groups, you are going to see a lot of
anarcho-capitalists claiming to be libertarians. You guys either have an
identity crisis either have a problem acknowledging the anarcho-capitalists
roots.

These people will become richer and pass the riches to
heirs who have been trained in their ways.

Correct.

No, not correct. There is no actual empirical evidence that happens.

upward mobility decline can be one of them:
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0127/p21s01-coop.html


It seems to me that in order to 'help the helpless' in a society while
also preventing wealth from being concentrated in the hands of people
who don't care (vs. those who are charitable), there has to be a tax
that takes money from everyone equally and gives it to those who would
die because they are not able to offer services to others who have
wealth. Like those old people with no relatives or savings, babies with
Hiv, and the disabled.

Correct. It is a common sense conclusion for any mentally sane person.

In other words it's the first thing your prejudice suggested and
you're too stupid to think otherwise.


No. We just look at 46 Million uninsured into the US andcompare that with
countries where health care access is considered a human right.
Then we see that this is the truth. And BTW we pay 2.5 times more than what
pay in countries with universal health care system, and we are sicker than
them.


A market totally unsupervised (libertarian free market) is going to
concentrate all the power into an oligopoly of local monopolies due to
the fact that economic power is additive and sticky.

No it's not because economic power is not "addictive and sticky" it's
tends
to disperse to people who have something to trade with the person with
economic power. After all that's what it's for.

You have no clue what are you talking about.
Assume you are the only one in the market with water and there are thousands
with breed. The power of negotiation is the water guy will be thousand
times the bargain power of bread guy. He can overprice the water and
underprice the bread accumulation more wealth, then use accumulated wealth
to influence others to work for him and get into the bread business too.

The difference betwen the size of an individual candidate and a corporate
makes any wage negotiation unfair too. The only way to have a fair
negotiation are the unions which bring a similar size at the bargain table.


Then they control the market at will making it not free.

Has never happened without government help.

More mythology, I see. Propaganda verses is everything that keep a radical
right afloat :-)


Oh yes, the "regulation to keep us unregulated" argument. War is
peace
freedom is slavery. Of course the markets that are most regulated tend
to be the most concentrated but this idiot would never know that.

More lies. Look at the last wave of mergers in last 6 years. Banks, oil
companies, telecom gigants and so on. Almost none of them was required to
survive, they happen just to get more bargain power concentrated to squish
customers.

Was enough 6 years of a misguided "pro business" political leadership which
guaranteed non intervention in market place to see banking, oil and
telecom oligopolies starting to form.

But of course, when reality does not ideology, the reality have to be
discarded so the good libertarian ideology prevail.



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