Re: Effects of raising minimum wages in USA

Michał Gancarski wrote:

The funniest thing here is that during the discussion you have advocated
violence and seizure of someone's property in almost every post and it was
me who have kept on opposing it.

This is a lie. You use circular logic. You assume by default that taxation
is violence then you try to demonstrate that .... taxation is violence.

No, it is not. Taxation is a mutual agreement betwen the society and you.

You don't like it ? Perfect, stop paying taxes but at the same moment you
have to:
- stop using the roads and any form of public assets
- stop interacting with other people taking advantage of society
- doing business of any kind in the society
- not using any money since they are a thing of the society

The only way you can achieve this is today's world will be either to go into
mountains and live alone into a cave.
Alternatively, you can stop paying taxes and go to jail to fulfill the
libertarian dream.

Now you are trying to ascribe violence to
people "like me", apparently knowing nothing about me and, what is more
grotesque than funny, not seeing obvious contradiction between violence
and prosperity. So no, it is not people "like me" who trigger the violence
since people "like me" hate it and oppose it every time they have an
occasion to do so.

People like you advocate a society where you drive a majority toward
desperation. And there is only a certain amount a desperation a human can
handle before being ready to take desperate actions. When enough people are
ready to take desperate actions you got a revolution. This means violence.

Therefore, your type of society steamed from pathological greed and from a
completely lack of understanding about how a society works force other
people to use violence as a single way of survival.

Of course, in your mind you would like to have everybody ready to die by
starvation for you. And if they are forced to use violence against you to
survive, you hate this. Then you claim: "I hate violence".
Words are cheap, especially for a libertarian advocating slavery and
economic coercion.


It is exactly people "like you" blabbering about
"social justice" and "common (or greater) good" who use force against
others.

This is a lie. Taxes are a mutual contract betwen individual and society.
Jail is an option to stay there and not pay taxes.

In my system of values violence is only a last resort, a passive
way to defend property against violence of others

The wealth produced by a worker it is his property. Therefore, if the
business owner want to get part of it then the worker is entitled to use
violence against the business owner. You advocate this ?

whereas in your perfect Keynesian demand-side paradise, forceful
confiscation is an active means of shaping relations between adults.

No, just expect everyone to pay his fair share. Libertarians want to be able
to loot from others freely but never pay their fair share.

So please, do not tell me about triggering violence.


Remember Russia 1917. This is your dream world.
Well, beside Somalia :-)


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