Re: Effects of raising minimum wages in USA

Robert Kolker wrote:

The libertarian philosophy is that too much government is bad.

To much by what measures?

It was a thread last month or so while some libertarians guys praised
Somalia as a good thing.

The is
nothing in libertarian thinking that puts forth greed as a good thing.
Rather, it is a permissible thing provided one does not steal or defraud
for that which one has a yen.

Here is the thing. Like in the example I presented above, there are
behaviors where is very hard to draw a line betwen fraud and normal
business practice.

Yes, in theory it is better to have a private contract betwen individual and
company But many companies (if not all of them) take advantage of bigger
bargain power to force lower wages. It is a common business practice, but
since it is common does not imply it is good for the society. Unfortunate,
libertarians took their belief in private contracts to the extreme and will
ever lie to justify every missconduct of a company against an individual.
Why ? Just because they got an obsession with no government and to fullfill
this obsession is more important that everything else. They are ready to
allow defraud, stealing, cheating and lies just in order to keep the
government away.

This obsessive behavior goes so far that some of them oppose the democracy
just because most of the governments in the world are democracies. Some
even prize places like Somalia, regardless of what is going on there.Just
because .... there is no government.

It is proven fact that we pay much much more for health care than in Europe
yet they are way way healthier than us, countries who pay 3 to 5 times
lower than US for health care have much lower rates of infant mortality.
However, because all this happen in Europe where they have an universal
health care system, that have to be bad just because ..... government is
involved. They lie as much they can against such a system. They rather see
people in pain than allowing gov. to solve the issue.

In the front of collapsing private pensions the only thing libertarians can
think about is to dismantle SS. When confronted with the fact that most of
workers can not have a salary good enough for a day to day living, never
mind save for retirement they oppose anything they can increase workers
wage: starting with gov programs for poor and ending with unions or minimum
wage. They would rather enjoy to see their parents starving to death than
allow the gov. to do something about.

And many many many more like that.

Excuse me, but if this is not a culture of pathological greed then seems to
be an compulsive obsessive behavior and a doctor must be involved.

bedrooms. Libertarians are great supporters of private consentual
activities and are opposed to government regulation of individual and
private morals.

The problem is that economic power is additive. Once one have more than
others he can use it to get it more from others. Remember the example with
W and P? Since P is dependent by W he can be prevented to create any wealth
he need to get rid of dependence.

Only a democratic oversight can prevent this forms of abuse to happen.
Again, it is called economic coercion and it is widespread world wide.
Libertarians even deny that such thing exist. Again, they lie just because
this is not as the mythology say.

I would not say Greed is Good.
I would say Greed is better than interfering with the
private affairs of other people.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
Edmund Burke



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