Re: Study shows public schools as good as private



On Sat, 15 Jul 2006 21:01:48 -0700, "Steven L. Robinson"
<srobin21@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

(Yet another road block for vouchers, this one is nearly insurmountable. SR)

Study bolsters public schools

Students on par with private-campus peers; U.S. downplays data

11:55 PM CDT on Friday, July 14, 2006

By Diana Jean Schemo / The New York Times

WASHINGTON - The Education Department reported Friday that, in reading and
math, children attending public schools generally do as well as or better
than children with similar racial, economic and social backgrounds in
private schools.

The exception was in eighth-grade reading, where the private school children
did better.

The report, which compared fourth- and eighth-grade reading and math scores
from nearly 7,000 public schools and more than 530 private schools in 2003...

And as long as one doesn't mention how much *more money* these public
schools spend teaching students with the same "racial, economic and
social backgrounds" to purportedly get the same results -- in NYC
$12,000 per student compared to $3,000 per student in the comparison
private schools -- the claim "just as good" sounds almost credible.

(Yet another road block for vouchers, this one is nearly insurmountable. SR)

Yup, in NYC we could teach 4 students with vouchers for the money paid
for one in the public school system. An insurmountable obstacle for
vouchers! ;-)

Here's a NYC public school teacher writing on how public schools are
managed just as efficiently as private schools....

http://www.scrivener.net/edu/accountability0.html

And here's the Budget Director of the NYC Board of Education writing
about how the public schools spend their money just as effectively as
private schools...

http://groups.google.com/group/nyc.general/msg/0ac582417f62c1ed?dmode=source&hl=en

Not so long ago when the Children's Scholarship Fund offered poor
families slots in these $3,000 Catholic schools if they paid $1,000 of
the tuition themselves, and it received 1.25 *million* applications
for only 35,000 scholarships. More than 35 for every slot. Remember
that?

That was 1.25 million poor people willing *to pay* to get out of
schools they get for " free."

So why not ask those actually in the schools what they think of the
schools? They were telling you right there.

BTW, do you know that Sweden has a universal voucher system for its
schools? All parents can send their children to any school, public,
private, or for-profit, and anybody can open a school.

Results have been exactly what pro-voucher reformers predicted, e.g:

"An independent study found that competition from independent schools
has improved results in state schools. Moreover, it has been found
that new independent schools are more likely to be established in
areas of under-performing state schools serving disadvantaged
children."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2006/01/20/do2002.xml&s***=/opinion/2006/01/20/ixop.html

But that's Swedish socialist social policy for you: Far too right-wing
for US "progressives".

;-)

(Go away from this group for a year and a half, come back for a look
see, and it's the same old same old only the drivel is even worse.
Bye again now.)

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