Re: Theory of beliefs, belief fields

And again I was fed (diseased!) urine in a store, with some specific
chemical that s felt on knees and calf bones. It is brain poison... I only
have so many places available to eat and so many dishes to order. It does
confuse and gives a headache. Urea is a toxin, it is toxic.

Schizophrenics live in a medieval world, the influence and power of Islam.
The reason is the convention used: if a schizophrenics hears and transmits
(walkie talkie), another schizophrenic will interpret it BACKWARDS, in
REVERSE. So reading about feeding well, will be interpreted in the other
side as eating bad! One prohibition in the open channel MEANS a in the
invisible channel! Others know it and use it as leverage against whoever
hears. Evil spreads. Hence the need of a corroboration to know if somebody
is tuned to that channel, the password or word of power in the fringe of
schizophrenia. Pronounce it and the other side will know, and will apply
what HE thinks the receptor heard! Of course, even the most secret of
words will eventually be known by non schizophrenics who will then be
considered as such by those who emit the word, even heard in dementia
mode. Instant persecution and pressure without understanding. So the
schizophrenic has an advantage over **normal** people! He is at least
aware of some of contents going through the channel, can protect from
them. Mind that under the gamut of options _some_ schizos will be aware
only because they are purposefully advised by others, his group even if
his group only because they choose to inform for whatever reason, while
sensitive brains, psychics, will be aware of the channel as such, no need
for particular people to inform him. It is normal people who will not
understand the threats and the _MEANINGS_ of those passwords and secret
words and also words of power. (Ultimately, their meaning is a risk for
both groups).

Medieval recipes, medieval mechanisms and cultures, supported by the
hidden nature of the channel, long oral traditions that make little sense
but give people some self acquired importance, paradoxically, self
acquired importance in front of CHILDREN, the excluded by nature befire
they go through the multiple rites of passage, of which sex may be the
least important one. In order to keep this self importance the hidden
channel must be kept hidden. This is a modern interpretation, in other
centuries the origin of the voices is divine or mysterious, no real need
to hide them as the meaning would be understood implicitly by the group as
that of a gifted individual, his role in the group being determined by its
contents and their effect on the group, contents that of course have their
origin in very human intellects... or lack of it. So what in some culture
is considered the (more or less) respected prophet, in others results into
the much vilipendiated devil; one is accepted, the other shunned away. And
once the contents and its receptors harm the group, the hunting and
persecution of the schizophrenic begins, to the point of mass migration
and war, massacres and genocides and murders... In antiquity the fine
distinction between a schizo-phrenic and a telepath would be lost and
ignored. The moment the contents and results of distant voices is obvious,
both will be targets of those affected, and OF COURSE, of those who are
the sources of those contents! Here it makes sense the formulation of
schizophrenia as a mind product and a disease to be hidden: those who are
known sources will be able to push and threatened those who are
considered, as a closure, untrustful BECAUSE they admit hearing voices! So
nobody is ill, only after a lot of effects having their origin in those
purposeful voices become evident the nature of the schizoPHRENIC is
unveiled and the victim shunned away. In other words, madness as such
begins the moment the schizo turns into schizophrenic by means of a
definition. More or less the same possibilities exist in both modern and
medieval worlds, but in modern madness and psychiatrist the schizo has to
be turned into a fullfledged SCHIZOPHRENIC so obvious that it becomes a
threat to society and himself, and so obvious that he can be treated as a
diseased man. Note that from the previous definition of psychosis it is
when behaviours go clasped and enter a close cycle that psychosis can be
considered as such; in the schizophrenic telepathic case the clasp is
internal but sustained by the effect of those voices the individual is
hearing, and that sustain will be the purpose of telepaths to address that
individual. This is why hearing voices within does not necessarily turns
into a disease or destabilization if the purpose of those addressing the
person is not such, but turns into an informative though unreliable means
of communication! But if the purpose is to destabilize eventually the
person will suffer the consequence of those contacts and will expose his
own faculty through his own acts.

The effect will be different whether the victim considers those voices to
be magical or human or internal. The **game** of schizophrenia becomes the
game of finding the source of those voices if they are considered human,
the acquisition of knowledge and other selfimportance tools if they are
considered divine or magical and a source of inspiration but also conflict
if they are considered internal, conflict as such inspiration will be
shared by others and only a few, those in the kernel, will be able to
claim the inspiration as theirs or will fully understand the rationale
behind those contents. So the question is, for how long a person can
pretend those voices are internal only? Again this is the importance of
providing a corroboration to make the receptor of the messages acknowledge
there is a source to those voices beyond his own imagination; to a normal
person this corroborations will looks like good or bad luck, as per the
**Doing magic, the telepathic processor** thread. Good if he doesnt hear
voices and the sources are amiable; bad if he emits telapathically but
cant hear voices and the receptors are evil. Complexity increases quickly.
By conjoining all possible forms of mind to mind contact, plus the
possibilities of using a double discourse / channel (propitiated by the
convention of using logical operations in the margin of both channel, from
which cyphers and all kinds of cryptography techniques arose) PLUS
assumptions as to the sources of those voices, including assigning them
different truth values, the world for the schizo turns into a very
difficult and complex place with a high probability that he will end
adding the -phrenic particle, passing from a sensible to unstable
behaviour. Each person will follow a different strategy to cope with the
reception, sources will use different strategies for different purposes,
methods to achieve purposes, either legal and candid or illegal and
sordid. Some of this purposes and methods will be sanctioned by one group
of schizotelepaths, while other purposes will be banned and persecuted by
another group of schizotelepaths! Multiple groups pushing ones against the
others their particular purpose and their particular method, a very
disorganized and confused situation further complicated by their relation
to common law. This is precisely the origin of the name and concept of
common law: it is the law that humans belonging to one group _have_ to
follow, disregarding their voice hearing status. It wont be enough,
though, to order the channel, as religious laws and traditions are only
partially reflected by common law, BUT, will be fully exposed through the
hidden channel as purpose and motive and thought, and also as method. Here
Judaism, Christianism and Islam differ widely and radically. Christianism
refers mainly to Christ and what can be inferred from his life and deeds,
it is less a set of prohibitions of life guides as a general call to
accept some truth by a group. Judaism instead and more now than before
turns into a LIFE GUIDE, full of suggestions and prohibitions and right
ways to do things. The same can be said of Islam. These contents will
spread throughout the channel just by their mere existence, as was
expressed earlier, just because one telepath thinks of it or a
schizophrenic reads it! We are not in a fully modern world because of it.
Psychiatrists can provide a set of categories of diseases and even methods
to push people into any bucket, exposing what is called the basic tendency
(see the story Colors, perverse story) and leaving alone those who can be
considered balanced, they can even turn into a real madman an adequate
individual, particularly those whose brains favor any one of what we call
psychopaths. But in real world such order, supplemented by, say, an
informative, story like content, has to cope with traditions and contents
from the old religious, and since thought is free of constraints, some
thoughts will eventually collide that thinking, promoting again witchhunts
and intifadas... Religious absolutism will tend to rule over more sensible
approaches, even after recognizing that thoughts differ from acts and
intentions... particularly if to avoid being considered either a
schizophrenic or a telepath, to avoid losing some advantage from the
channel, contents entering and leaving the channel are, conventionally,
understood backwrads...

It is one of such beliefs that is killing my brain with those beliefs and
methods.

(copy of post above)
Vitalism was already solved, not explictly in Alive and Human but it is
there, and more clearly in the thread There was no grace period. No
philosophical like discussion yet.

Suicide is the first **human** algorythm ethic, ethic zero. Life is the
second algorythmic ethic. What this people have been proposing, their
doctrine, can also be considered an algorythmic, destructive ethic, the
ethic of psychosis... So the gold rule would be the fourth historical
algorythmic ethic, tentatively, previous attempts being expressed by law
in historical pre-greek societies, though in their case the existence of
the religion mechanisms would bias their recognition...

No arguments here. Napoleon was a left handed guitarrist, he would fret
with the right hand! And pending a better narration, I think that
professor in UIA was a he-shemale, acting in schizophrenic no
incrimination (remote visioner) mode. So I didnt notice him... til now in
long term memory.

No argumentation here yet, the books of death have the same meaning, in
the level of true mysticism BUT without recurring to telepathic
(invisible) communications and their mechanistic necessarieties and
sufficiencies, some of which belong to the sphere of possible political
governments. So... the path chosen is an animalistic (pre)irrational
path, different from the path of Reason aspiring to something different,
new and better!

Was there a sixth planet in the Solar System? A sixth planet exploding,
pulverizing the fifth planet into asteroids, volatilizing the atmosphere
of the fourth plante, extinguishing a chemical civilization on Earth,
turning the Moon into a pseudovolcanic body... It makes sense in several
ways, the test would be to regress in a model to that point and see if it
matches observations of current events in the system. Jupiter seems to be
a new unknown and a new problem from this optic. Kind of Velikovskian...
though the idea of solar billiard seems to jolly to be an efficient
explanation. Assuming previous intelligent civilizations and a
catastrophe... that explanation would also have implications to the origin
and meaning of religious texts. For instance, Genesis speaks of an early
application of the same mechanism discussed in some of these threads,
guards expelling the mythical first couple (of a civilization) from a
higher technological reduct later lost, punishment for a crime instigated
as solution to a deeper problem in the reduct, the utopian paradise of
the
beginning...

Reinterpreting texts? Nonsense. They have reality in TEXT, a different
level of being, some would call in the ontic level. Like the difference
between a series of drawings of a sculpture and the sculpture.

True Deep Mysticism lies on the level below telepathy and schizophrenia,
and this possibility must be taken very seriously, as once telepathy is
acknowledged from the side of science and **technology**, THAT path is
open to further investigate and Know Reality, as some new physics
approaches hint at.

All this material can be much better elaborated and sustained, but I am
still trying to reach contacts to have things done and recover from the
bad experience. This city lost control and it became evident to me last
night, with a yet another bad coffee that if handled would end up
affecting who would be on my side, at least in familiarity terms, but
would be actually hurt by me the moment the situation is exposed. Old
Egyptians didnt have police... only lots of very death oriented priests.

Fabrizio J Bonsignore now Danilo J Bonsignore

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