Re: query regarding Georgist assertion
- From: w_b_ryan@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: 6 Apr 2007 01:10:16 -0700
On Apr 6, 1:16 am, r...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 5 Apr 2007 16:17:12 -0700, w_b_r...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:-------------------------------------------
The link you supplied does not support the assertion
that "high" taxes on land are associated with
prosperity. Eighteen countries are listed, all
European, with the exception of the United States,
Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and Japan. The
countries are ranked from the highest to the lowest
in terms of "property tax as a percentage of total tax
collected by the country." The United States is
ranked the highest at 11.9 percent. Austria is
ranked the lowest at 1.3 percent. That is to say,
more than ninety percent of taxes collected in those
very wealthy industrialized countries come from
something other than property tax. Inasmuch as
property tax is inclusive of tax on improvements
and personal property, the percentage of total taxes
collected on the value of land alone would be even
lower.
Of course they are not Single Tax countries. The point is to compare
the ones near the top of the list with the ones near the bottom. The
ones near the top -- USA, Switzerland, Japan, Canada, Australia --
have generally been more prosperous than those near the bottom. The
UK is less prosperous despite its high property tax revenue fraction
becuase its property tax system is very strongly geared to taxing
improvements at a higher rate than land.
I notice you ignored all the other evidence I provided of pre-modern
examples and the newly prosperous resource-rent countries. That is
normal and expected.
But it's really very simple, stupid: would Kuwait, Brunei, etc. be
wealthy countries today if they were giving all the economic rent of
their resources away to the oil companies for doing nothing, and
taxing production to raise revenue?
You have of course chosen to be permanently incapable of answering
that question honestly, or even of knowing the answer, because it
proves your beliefs are false.
-- Roy L
This was the Georgist assertion that I asked for
some verifiable data in support:
"...the most prosperous societies usually have high
levels of land taxation."
You supplied a link to data from eighteen countries,
which demonstrated that more than ninety percent
of taxes in those countries were from sources other
than taxes on property of all kinds, and that the
percentage of taxes from land, being a subset of
property of all kinds, would be necessarily lower.
You now say "the point is to compare the ones near
the top of the list with the ones near the bottom."
No, that is not responsive to my request. Rather
than demonstrate that the most prosperous societies
usually have high levels of land taxation, the data
actually demonstrates that the eighteen very
prosperous countries have low levels of land
taxation.
Everything else in your post was additional
assertion without supporting evidence.
It is impossible to supply actual empirical evidence
to support the Georgist position.
But please do keep trying.
.
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