Re: Whole house surge suppressors
From: Mark (mschal_at_adelphia.net)
Date: 07/05/04
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Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:12:24 -0400
Reality check here....I don't care what surge protection you use, if
lightning hits your stuff its fried.
-- Mark MCSA, CNA, A+, Net+, iNet+, Server+ "Flea Ridden" <flea@flea.ridden> wrote in message news:40E977E8.D57B6A19@flea.ridden... > This is a most informative article, and it echoes what w_tom says: > http://www.ecmweb.com/mag/electric_hit_grounding_home/ > > So when I call an arbitrary electrician to ask for a grounding survey, > how do I know he's telling me the truth? > > Do I have to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars to purchase a ground > tester? > > This is for a single family home that I have lived in for about 7 years, > and will probably continue to live in for about 7 more years. > > > Since I'm having electrical work done, I would also like something like > this: http://scientificsonline.com/product.asp_Q_pn_E_3108400 installed > at my breaker box; it would be nice if it could break down it's info by > each breaker; and it would also be nice if it could tell me how much > current is flowing through my ground connection. > > > Here are random URLs of info: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=0ap7ov4as6j8rj82pd3nv4fhl27dc2adm0%404ax.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3D0ap7ov4as6j8rj82pd3nv4fhl27dc2adm0%25404ax.com > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=3F0A5E47.FF0175D2%40hotmail.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fnum%3D100%26hl%3Den%26lr%3Dlang_en%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26scoring%3Dd%26as_drrb%3Db%26q%3D%2Bfranklin%2Bgroup%253Aalt.certification.a-plus%2Bauthor%253Aw_tom%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch%26as_mind%3D12%26as_minm%3D5%26as_miny%3D2002%26as_maxd%3D25%26as_maxm%3D8%26as_maxy%3D2003 > > http://amasci.com/amateur/whygnd.html > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=3c0bf1a2%241%40news.alcatel.com&rnum=3&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dground%2Bneutral%2Bhot%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=8gdgt7%24esp%241%40news.efn.org&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dground%2Bneutral%2Bhot%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=rLpu0fAF53T6EwcJ%40lineone.net&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dground%2Bneutral%2Bhot%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=w5nsc.34575%24zw.8611%40attbi_s01&rnum=20&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dground%2Bneutral%2Bhot%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26start%3D10%26sa%3DN > > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=U%25046.32481%24bw.2026859%40news.flash.net&rnum=26&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dground%2Bneutral%2Bhot%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26start%3D20%26sa%3DN > > > > > Here is a summary of models I have found, and some anecdotes from > Usenet: > > MODEL: Panamax Primax > RESELLER: SmartHome.com http://www.smarthome.com/4839.html > JOULES: 2700 > AMPS: 60,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120/240 1 Phase, 50/60 Hz > RESPONSE TIME: 8x20 microseconds > PRICE: $119.99 > WARRANTY: the manufacturer provides a 3-year Connected Major Appliance > Protection Policy up to $10,000 for the repair or replacement of major > household appliances (refrigerator, freezer, oven, range, washer, dryer, > ceiling fan or dishwasher) and a 5-year product warranty. > URLS: > - Press Release: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=panamax+surge&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=01bd5cec%24605a2680%2477003dce%40oemcomputer&rnum=3 > > - Negative Experiences: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=panamax+surge&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=7nsc8t%24fo1%241%40nnrp1.deja.com&rnum=4 > > - More Negative Experiences: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&threadm=01bcf42f%24f7de1be0%240100007f%40blyle&rnum=8&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26edition%3Dus%26q%3Dpanamax%2Bsurge%26btnG%3DSearch > > MODEL: Leviton 51120-1 > RESELLER: SmartHome.com http://www.smarthome.com/4860.html > JOULES: 950 > AMPS: 50,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: > RESPONSE TIME: "Instantaneous" > PRICE: $189.99 > WARRANTY: > URLS: > - Positive Comment: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&threadm=tia8dac62nojbf%40corp.supernews.com&rnum=4&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dleviton%2Bsurge%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26edition%3Dus%26selm%3Dtia8dac62nojbf%2540corp.supernews.com%26rnum%3D4 > > - Negative Comment: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=leviton+surge&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=4026686F.E9CD70A%40hotmail.com&rnum=3 > > - Positive Comment: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=51120+leviton&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=37864104.3D18F1FD%40ibm.net&rnum=2 > > MODEL: Panamax gpp8005 > RESELLER: PowerSystemsDIRECT > http://www.powersystemsdirect.com/Panamax/Service_Entrance_Protector_Whole_House_Surge_Primax_gpp8005_55.php > > JOULES: 2,700 > AMPS: 60,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120/240 1 Phase 50/60Hz > RESPONSE TIME: > PRICE: $99.99 > WARRANTY: Connected Equipment Policy Length 3 Years; Connected > Equipment Policy Amount $10,000; Lightning Protection Yes > URLS: > Model description: > > MODEL: Intermatic IG1240RC > RESELLER: SmartHomeUSA.com > http://www.smarthomeusa.com/Shop/Lighting/Surge-Suppressors/Item/IG1240RC/ > > JOULES: 1,200 > AMPS: 48,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120/240V 60Hz > RESPONSE TIME: Less than 5 nanoseconds > PRICE: $69.95 > WARRANTY: $10,000 warrantee > URLS: > - Positive: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&threadm=7ukvpr%24dja%241%40news.mks.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Dpanamax%2Bprimax%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26edition%3Dus%26selm%3D7ukvpr%2524dja%25241%2540news.mks.com%26rnum%3D2 > > - Positive: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&threadm=dschneid.367.000B7827%40nicmad.nicolet.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26edition%3Dus%26q%3Dintermatic%26btnG%3DSearch > > - Positive: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=intermatic&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=37FC7F0A.37E63B3A%40nni.com&rnum=3 > > - Informational: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=intermatic+surge&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=bdagtd%24paf%40acadia.ee.vill.edu&rnum=2 > > MODEL: Intermatic PanelGuard IG1300-4T-2C, protects (?) phone-lines and > cable lines too > RESELLER: > JOULES: > AMPS: 48,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120/240 single (split) phase, 4 telephone lines, and 2 > coax cable lines; ALL MODE PROTECTION (L1-N, L2-N, L1-G, L2-G, N-G, > L1-L2); 150 Volt MOVs (Metal Oxide Varistors) [AC Protection]; 350 Volt > Gas Tube [Telephone Protection]; 90 Volt Gas Tube [Coax Cable / > Satellite Protection] > RESPONSE TIME: > PRICE: IG1300-2T is $152.83 at > http://www.aplussupply.com/intermatic/pg5000/ig1240.htm > WARRANTY: $10,000, 5 year warranty > URLS: > - Non-negative: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=38e3ov8gs057mmtgpgq3loqfodtq1odneq%404ax.com&rnum=1&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DIG-1300%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch > > - Positive: > http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=bdc56s%24q5q%40acadia.ee.vill.edu&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fq%3DIG-1300%26ie%3DUTF-8%26hl%3Den%26btnG%3DGoogle%2BSearch > > MODEL: Ditek DTK-WH8 Whole House Kit > RESELLER: StayOnline > http://www.stayonline.com/panel_surge_protectors/3233.asp > JOULES: 1050 > AMPS: 125,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120 / 240 Split Phase ; Suppressed Voltage Rating: 700V > (L-L), 400V (L-G, L-N, N-G) > RESPONSE TIME: Less than 5 nanosecond > PRICE: $149 > WARRANTY: > URLS: > > MODEL: PolyPhaser IS-PM120-SP > RESELLER: PolyPhaser.com > JOULES: > AMPS: 40,000 > CIRCUIT TYPE: 120Vac, 1 Phase, 2 Wires & GND > RESPONSE TIME: ?? Turn-On Time: 25ns ?? > PRICE: > WARRANTY: > URLS: > - Positive: > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=leviton+surge&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&edition=us&selm=4026686F.E9CD70A%40hotmail.com&rnum=3 > > > > > > > >
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