Re: very new to electronics. looking for starting place.
From: Scott Zechman (szechman_at_JoiMail.com)
Date: 08/01/04
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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 08:54:27 -0500
Thanks for the reply. I guess I am the type of person that wants it now. I
think back to my computer experience and it was a long hard road of
learning. took years and years. I assume the same would be true for
electronics. as a matter of fact I took an electronics course in school,
back in the day around 1981. That is when I decided that I would rather get
into computers. Working the end result of the electronics rather than the
electronics themselves. I guess a lot has changed since 1981. I still
remember ohms law and how to calculate resistance run in parellel. I realize
that this is a rather large project as I am jumping right into digital
electronics, but for someone with my very rudimentary knowledge, wouldnt it
take years of study to come up to speed to tackle something like this? This
project is just like me, jumping in with both feet. I was going over the
posts in the group and could follow alot of it. Like the discussing about
the LED's and the difference between running them in parellel with there own
resistors as opposed to running them in sieries with one resistor. And then
there where other discussions that I was just clueless about with no frame
of reference. As for the cost of the project, I feel that it could "pay for
itself" by being able to reprogram the chip on my own rather than paying
someone else 45.00 everytime I needed it reprogrammed. As far as "not caring
why it works" I guess that is not necessarally true. Its just that the time
I think that it would take to increase my knowedge to the point where I
could design something like this would take years, not weeks or even months.
I am still interested in doing the project but have no idea even where to
get started. I have no idea of what parts are availble. What type of memory
chip i would use to store my sound byte, etc. I guess I could get some parts
from Radio Shack, but only the very basic ones. (I used to work there so I
have a good idea of their inventory). I have seen these types of devices in
CB Shops and on the bread boards that they use it only appears to be a few
parts, so i do not see cost as a real big issue (at least not for the final
cost. I do see how testing and trial and error could get expensive) but of
course the design is of a closely guarded secret as they want to keep
getting their 45.00. Cant say as I blame them, they have to eat too. Well I
have gone on enough here. If you have any suggestions as to where to get
started, please let me know.
Thanks,
Scott
"Rich Grise" <null@example.net> wrote in message
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> Scott Zechman wrote:
>
> > I know what the basic components are (ie, resistors, ic's, etc). I know
> > how to solder and am really good at following diagrams. I have a good
idea
> > of what components do, (ie, a capasitor stores a charge and a transistor
> > is a switch, sort of, and an ic is a collection of transistors) but
> > putting all of them together to actually do something is beyond me.
> ...
> > 1. I want to design some type of curcit that is capable of storing a
sound
> > bite on a some type of memory chip. about 20 seconds more or less.
> > ...
> > 2. play back of the sound bite(s). I would like to incorporate this into
> > (now dont laugh) a CB radio. So for example, if I flip a switch to
active
> > the "sound bite chip" and key up the mic, the sound bite would be played
> > rather than someone talking into the mic.
> ...
> > from what I have seen other Truckers have in there CB radios. If you go
to
> > a CB shop they would be more than happy to install this type of
> > prerecorded sound chip in your CB for you. For 45.00. And if you want a
> > different sound you have to get a new prerecorded chip. And yes, that
> > would be another 45.00. That is where I came up with the idea of
something
> > that I could erase and rerecord over. Just trying to have a little fun
> > while I have to spend time away from my family.
> >
> Well, you're not going to bring it in for 45.00! You'll spend that just
> on your first tools.
>
> Then, that's an _awfully_ big project for a very first project. It's
> definitely doable, but I'd recommend doing it in little chunks.
>
> If all you want is a cookbook, connect-the-dots of an input amp,
> ADC, memory, DAC, output amp, and control logic, I'd say, Lots of Luck!
> I know I could "design" something that would accomplish this - actually
> more like copy example circuits from data books and string them
together -,
> but I wouldn't want to start on it unless I had a couple of weeks to
> devote to it. And I've been into electronics for 35 years. Went pro
> in 1968, in the USAF. But enough about me.
>
> I'm really sorry if it sounds like I'm saying you shouldn't even try,
> but to build something like that, and "[not] care why it works",
> it will be extremely difficult to get it working, even with the most
> detailed of instructions.
>
> If you wanted to approach this as a learning experience, I'd share your
> enthusiasm, but from what you've said so far, it'll be much cheaper in
> the long run to just buy the unit. Now, just programming the one chip,
> that's a little less - actually, not that much less - involved than
> the whole shebang with interface and everything, but you'd still need
> the amp and ADC (which I guess you could do with the computer), and
> some way of programming the chip, which you _still_ couldn't build for
> less than $45.00. And Dawg knows how much in time and frustration!
>
> Anyway, don't make any rash decisions based on my input - I really want
> to read your response to me - I may be way off base as to where you're
> at with all this.
>
> Cheers!
> Rich
>
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