Re: Need help building a split voltage supply

From: Robert C Monsen (rcsurname_at_comcast.net)
Date: 08/27/04


Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:48:15 GMT


"JoJo" <N@NE.nothing> wrote in message
news:6mwXc.111166$4h7.15647526@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
>
> I tried 3 4001 in series and a 1K both as a load across the 5V and
> in series
> with the diodes.
>
> 3 diodes in series - 1K as load = 4.36V (same reading using 4 diodes
> too)
> 3 diodes in series - 1K in series =4.75V
>
>

Here is some information that might be helpful, some of which you
might already know.

(please view in courier font)

On real schematics, the symbol for a diode is a filled in black arrow
with a line on the point. The line on the diagram corresponds to the
line on the actual diode. This is an ascii equivalent:

 ->|-

Current flows in the direction of the arrow, from left to right, when
you put voltage across it.

This is the ascii symbol for a resistor:

 --/\/\/---

Series means end to end, whereas parallel means all ends tied
together.

Series:
                          1k
5V ---->|---->|---->|----/\/\/--- GND

Parallel:

   +--->|----+
   | | 1k
5V-+--->|----+--/\/\/--- GND
   | |
   +--->|----+

If you put them in series, then the voltage across the resistor shown
will be about 2.9V. Replacing the resistor with your circuit that
requires 3V is what the original responder was saying.

If you put them in parallel, then the voltage across the resistor will
be about 4.3V. This is probably not what you want, cause it doesn't
drop the voltage to near 3 volts for the remainder of the series
elements.

If you don't have a series resistor, like this

Series:

5V ---->|---->|---->|--- GND

or

Parallel:

   +--->|----+
   | |
5V-+--->|----+---- GND
   | |
   +--->|----+

then you are shorting out your 5V supply, and probably pulling the
supply down to 4.75 by trying to suck far too much current through it.
Don't do this, you will burn out your power supply and fry your
diodes. You should always have a resistor, or something that provides
resistance between the 5V and GND terminals.

One other thing, a Zener diode is a special diode, which is used
reversed from the usual orientation (the line points to the positive
side.) It works by preventing current from flowing until a voltage
threshold is reached, and then allowing allowing a virtual short above
that. If you put it in series with a resistor, and put more voltage
across it than the voltage rating of the zener, the voltage across the
zener will be approximately the voltage limit, and the voltage across
the resistor will be whatever is left over, that is, V+ - V- - Vzener.

Hope this helps!

Regards,
 Bob Monsen



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