Re: Use of Extension Cord

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:29:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:18:03 -0000, John Fields <jfields@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:14:42 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@xxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
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>>> ARGH! You watch adverts? You nee a spam filter on your TV set.
>>
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>> I watch what I please and if I don't like it I mute it. Simple.
>
>You remembered this one.

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Yes, dumbass, because I liked it.
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>>> Remove the the then. [Grammatical appallingness may be deliberate, it may not.]
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>> Grammar has nothing to do with it. Gratuitous insults do, you
>> miserable piece of ***.
>
>Er.... you tell me not to insult, then insult me in the same sentence?

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Yes, of course. Your insults are gratuitous, while mine are
retaliatory.
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>>> It's the Irish and Italians that are Catholic.
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>> And you are neither, and nothing?
>
>I have no religion, yes.
>
>>>> Don't assume; do the math.
>>>
>>> I don't need to.
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>> Yes, you do.
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>No I don't.

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You mean you _can't_?
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>> I know the basics of what they do. Heating the house has to
>> generate that heat. An AC just MOVES the heat.
>
>I wrote this part, it needs two >, upgrade your software.

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Blow me.
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>> And generates waste heat in the process. What, do you think you can
>> compress a gas until it turns into a liquid for free?
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>No, but the waste won't be as much as the heat movced, unless it's a really crap AC.

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Prove it. Show me some data.
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>> Any electricity used is due to inefficiency (like with a lightbulb).
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>> No, the waste heat generated is due to the inefficiency of the
>> _process_. You really ought to stick with something you know
>> something about if you don't want to end up with egg on your face.
>> Oh, but wait... what would that be??? So far, all you seem to be
>> good at is creating confusion.
>
>My refridgerator uses *** all power.

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That's because it's enclosing a very small volume and has much
better insulation than most houses do.

BTW, there's no 'd' in refrigerator.
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>>>>>> Nope, just more efficient.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't need to be efficient with 200 amps.
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>>>> That's just stupid. If you don't know why, that's even worse.
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>>> It's not stupid, it was a hint that Americans are not efficient - look at your gas guzzlers.
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>> It certainly is stupid, and gas-guzzlers have nothing to do with it.
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>They have everything todo with it. Go look up some stats on pollution per head from different countries.

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No dumbass, gas-guzzling has nothing to do with it, and from what I
see on the street, there aren't huge numbers of gas-guzzlers around.
What's doing it is that about 80% of the 200 million of us are
driving long distances every day. That'll probably change as gas
prices increase and many more of us will be able to work from home,
as I do now. And, anyway, the jury's still out as to whether CO2's
a pollutant or not.
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>> You're implying that because we have 200A services our (say)
>> refrigerators run less efficienly that yours do because you only
>> have 80 amp services? It's just the other way around moron.
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>I didn't imply that at all.

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Then what were you struggling to say?
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>> Since your 80 amp services have smaller diameter cable in them than
>> our 200 amp services do, their higher resistance causes higher
>> losses due to increased power dissipation and heating of the cable.
>>
>> Do the math.
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>I have no idea what diameter cable we have.

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Then you shouldn't be saying that a 200A service is less efficient
than an 80A one is.
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>That's up to the electric board.
>It's up to them to weigh up the cost of thicker cable versus more heating.
> Maybe it defrosts the water pipes in winter?

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More bull***. You don't know what you're talking about so you try
to blame your ignorance on the electric board.
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>>>>> So, how many amps does your airconditioner use?
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>>>> The largest one has a starting current of 129 amps and a running
>>>> current of 25 amps, the next largest a starting current of 61 amps
>>>> and a running current of 13 amps and the smallest one probably about
>>>> 50 amps and ten amps, all on a single phase 240V service.
>>>
>>> How often are they on?
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>> What the *** is it to you?
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>It has everything to do with your power consumption, which is what we are discussing.

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No, we're discussing efficiency, not how much power I use.
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>>> You must have an extremely large house, or live on the equator
>>> and like the temperature to be zero.
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>> If you can figure out how to, look at my headers and figure it out
>> for yourself, moron.
>
>I'm not a geek, I can't be bothered.

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Hmmm... Something else you're not. So far it seems there's very
little of substance to you and even that's dwindling fast.

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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
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