Re: polar vs nonpolar capacitors



"Dave" (dspear99ca@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) writes:
> I am interested in upgrading some audio components, and a lot of DIY tweak
> mention "replace the electrolytics in the signal path with Black Gate or
> other low-noise nonpolar capacitors." I know that polar capacitors cannot
> tolerate reversed polarity, and that bi-polars can as they are really two
> back-to-back capacitors. What is a non-polar? How is it different from a
> bipolar?
>
> Dave
>
>

Well, it must be a non-polarized capacitor.

Polarized capacitors exist not because of function but because of
manufacturing process.

There is no need for polarized capacitors.

But, in order to have higher value capacitors in reasonable sized
packages, the manufacturers have to switch to methods that result
in a polarized capacitor. The capacitor itself objects if the
wrong polarity is applied.

For a lot of applications where higher value capacitors are required,
that they are polarized doesn't matter, because they are mostly used
where there is indeed a well defined DC voltage applied to one of
the terminals. Thus, for filter capacitors in that power supply,
a polarized capacitor doesn't matter because you connect the capacitor
from a positive voltage to ground, so it's all very clear. A coupling
capacitor on the output of an amplifier running off only a positive
voltage has a positive voltage on that output, so again it's clear.

In a few cases, the capacitor won't actually see a clearly polarized
voltage source. Crossover capacitors in speakers are a prime example,
because the DC component has already been removed, either because
the amplifier feeding the speaker has a DC coupling capacitor on
the output, or has a transformer on the output (not likely in recent
decades). Here, there is no longer an AC voltage riding on a DC voltage,
so no matter what the AC voltage one side of the capacitor is clearly more
positive than the other; there is an AC voltage coming into that capacitor,
moving from positive to negative and back, in reference to the other
side of the capacitor. You need a non-polarized capacitor there, but
the issue of size and capacitance comes into play, and most capacitors
of the values needed will be electrolytic. A common trick is to put
two polarized capacitors in series, and sometimes they are manufactured
that way, so the capacitor is not polarized.

But there are issues with that sort of scheme. For someone fussing
with types of coupling capacitors in audio circuitry, they want non-polarized
capacitors. Thus the capacitors need to be manufacturered using some scheme
that will not inherently result in a polarized capacitor. If the values
are low enough, this is not an issue. If the values of capacitance are
higher, then one has to hunt around capacitors of mylar or polystyrene or
some other scheme that does not result in a polarized capacitor, and
the result may be a larger capacitor because those other formulations
can't be so compact.

Michael


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