Re: Use of Extension Cord

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:50:21 -0000, John Fields <jfields@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:26:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:36:14 -0000, John Fields <jfields@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 23:49:28 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:17:28 -0000, John Fields <jfields@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:29:40 -0000, "Peter Hucker" <no@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:


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Yes, dumbass, because I liked it.

Even though it was muted? Either you have exceptional hearing, or your mute needs repairing. 

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I _do_ have exceptional hearing, and muting comes _after_ the fact.
If I don't don't like what I hear, I mute it.  If I do, I don't.

So far you've been lucky.

What, you're about to mute usenet? 

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No, I haven't plonked you yet.


Glutton for punishment?

Why is that so hard for you to understand?

I don't even listen to the start of an advert, I press fast forward as soon as the break starts. 

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Your loss. Some ads are very clever.


I see those on the "100 alltime best ads" shows.

Yes, of course.  Your insults are gratuitous, while mine are
retaliatory.

You started the insults first, and they were a lot stronger. 

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You're a God Damned liar.

The insults started with your America bashing.

Had you not decided to take that route I would have left you alone
but, since you did, I felt compelled to show you up for the phony
that you are.

So far so good.

I make a passing comment or two, you write pointless fucking insults like this you fuckwit. 

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Whether you know it or not, your "passing comments" are little
insults designed to elicit no response, but to be continuously
absorbed by the insultee for the purpose of allowing you to have
your way with them as time goes by.


"Whether I know it or not"???  If I don't know it then I can't be doing it can I?

And you are neither, and nothing? 

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Ergo, you have no grounding and everything ends with you?
Can you build a flower?  Or a lizard?  Or anything with life in it?

No I cannot, neither can some makey up being. 

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Your limitations are not a god's.


There is no such thing as a god.  What little respect I had for you has now gone.

No. All you can do is make excuses for your impotence and try to
convince all the rest of us that we should be just like you.

Losers.

*** you, pig***, mine are headed for the stars.

In English? 

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In English, it's: "*** you, pig***, mine are headed for the
stars."

What's the matter? you can't understand vague? 

It wasn't "vague", it was American.

Blow me.

More innuendo. Why are most American phrases sexually orientated? 

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They aren't, but when you read something as  blatant as "Blow me"
and tag it as innuendo, that points out how little you  know about
the language.

It's not a language, it's just warped English. 

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It's American English.  A dynamic, evolving language with words in
it like "OK", "Levi's", and "freedom", something most of you lot
have never had a taste of.  Or wouldn't have, had it not been for
us.


You mean the freedom to get shot?

What I wrote earlier was that an AC would use less power than a heater for a given temperature change of the house. Which was correct, by a factor of up to 5.29. 

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Regardless of what you wrote earlier, you're still wrong.

Think about it this way:

If it takes a given amount of energy to raise the temperature of one
pound of water one degree Fahrenheit, and it takes the same amount
of energy to lower the temperature of one pound of water one degree
Fahrenheit, but it takes a little extra to run the cooling
equipment, then the heater wins the efficiency race for delta T.


But it doesn't work like that.  To heat the water, you must put that amount of heat into the water, from the electricity supply.  1 unit of energy from the supply gives the water one unit of heat.  To cool the water, you are not having to create any heat, you are only MOVING it.  The only power consumed is the power to run the cooling equipment, ending up as extra heat outside the water.

Then write 'fridge' instead of 'refridgerator'

My point was the English language is wrong. Fridge is short for refridgerator. Adding a d in one and not the other is illogical. 

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LOL, poor uneducated baby...

"Fridge" is a contraction and a bastardization of "Frigidaire",  The
brand name of an early-on American refrigerator. The 'd' was added
in order to make the contraction sound the same as it would have
sounded before "idaire" was dropped when "idaire was dropped.

Some of us even still say "icebox" 

LOL, poor overeducated person who should be on quizshows :-P

I see Americans complaining about gas costs all the time. 

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And we shouldn't?


You have little to complain about.

If you didn't want to spend loads of money, you wouldn't make the effort to earn it. 

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Wrong again.

We like to make loads of money in case we _have_ to spend it, for
emergencies,


I suppose..... there's no NHS over there.  But then you can have medical insurance.

but it's also nice to have enough coming in so that we
don't have to worry about running out of groceries and can go to a
movie every once in a while and still have a buffer behind us.

And you? 

That's what a credit card is for.  Oops car is a right off, have to buy another immediately, put it on the card.  Gets paid off over the next few months.

Learn to read, moron, no one was talking about your grid.

I did. It was to explain that the electricity board most likely have worked out the economics of the house supply wire thickness, just as they have with the national grid. 

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So, there you sit bitching about what a bunch of assholes your
government comprises and, in the same breath, you defend  their
arbitrary decision to limit the energy input to your hovel.


The government are ARSEholes.  (Buttock holes not donkey holes)

I don't remember telling you I think the electricity board are arseholes.

Sounds to me like they've got you locked down and you're loving it. 

Locked down how?

Same old ***. Let the crown 

You mean royalty?  They're just figureheads.  They eat a bit of tax and I'd love to have them all assassinated, but they aren't in power.

tell you what to do so you don't have
to work it out for yourselves and you'll die happy, having given it
up to what you were told was "A higher authority."

LOL, all the "higher authority" wants from you is taxes. 

Only two things are certain in life, death and taxes!

What I said was that since your domestic service is limited to 80
amps and mine to 200, yours will have smaller diameter wire in it
than mine.

It might, it might not. I have never measured it. 

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So measure it.

If you want to play this game, it's all about facts which can be
verified by anyone who wants to play.

It's not about opinions from pussies like you who want to ***
around with *** that you know nothing about.


The diameter of the cable is not of my concern, and would involve me bothering to go outside and look.  We were talking about how much current we need in the house.

For all I know there may be a 200 amp wire in there,
but they don't allow us to use more than 80
as that's  all they have allowed for in the transformers.


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So measure it, ***, and stop bitching about what they won't allow
you to do.


I'm not bitching about it - I told you 80 amps is plentiful.

Such being the case, the resistance in your service will be higher
than mine and, for the same load on both systems, yours will heat up
more, throwing that energy away, making it less efficient than mine.

Probably not a significant amount. 

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Let's see...

A million Brits each wasting a watt is a megawatt.  Not a lot, but
not insignificant.


That's the kind of silly stats the treehuggers put out on telly.  A million brits are consuming how much altogether?  The only true stat is the percentage.

No, we're discussing efficiency, not how much power I use.

I was trying to establish how much power you used to run your AC. 

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Assume a running power factor of .9 and use the data I've already
given you to work it out.

I don't know what your weather is like, how cool you like you house etc. 

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That shouldn't  matter since you invoked SEER.


You asked me to work out how much power you use to run your AC.  Without knowking how much cooler you like your house than the outside air, how big the house is, and how good your insulation is, I cannot work it out.


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