Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom <w_tom1@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:38:39 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 25, 11:41 am, bud-- <remove.budn...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
w_ is not just your normal troll. He is a religious fanatic.
Bud is my troll who follows me everywhere posting insults. Insult
are his only proof. His citations even show how a plug-in protector
causes damage. It is his job to promote obscenely profitable plug-in
protectors. Bud cannot even admit who he represents.
Let's see what UL approved protectors might do. Bud's standard
response: these UL approved protectors are not UL approved. Nonsense.
UL1449 standard have existed since 28 Aug 1985. Recent scary pictures
from fire departments, fire marshal, etc occur when a plug-in
protector (that meets UL standards) is constructed to maximize
profits; not provide protection:
http://www.hanford.gov/rl/?page=556&parent=554
http://www.westwhitelandfire.com/Articles/Surge%20Protectors.pdf
http://www.ddxg.net/old/surge_protectors.htm
http://www.zerosurge.com/HTML/movs.html
http://tinyurl.com/3x73ol
http://www3.cw56.com/news/articles/local/BO63312/
A protector that clamps to nothing must absorb surge energy. Where
do you put this protector? On a carpet behind furniture? Adjacent to
a desktop of papers? That energy must be dissipated someplace. If
not in earth, then were does surge energy get dissipated? Scary
pictures demonstrate another problem with plug-in protectors.
Problem made worse when the occupant only has two wire receptacles.
Bud still recommends his plug-in protectors on two wire receptacles.
After all, a plug-in protector works by clamping to nothing.
From Bud's citations, his protector without earthing may even earth
8000 volts destructively through the adjacent TV - Page 42 Figure 8.
Bud does not even dispute this. Every responsible source says a
protector for typically destructive surges must have that short (ie
'less than 10 foot') connection to earth. As Bud's citation bluntly
says:
A very important point to keep in mind is that yourBud says his protector works, instead, by clamping to nothing. It has
surge protector will work by diverting the surges to
ground. The best surge protection in the world can
be useless if grounding is not done properly.
no earth ground. The OP also has no earth ground. Bud says that is
not a problem. Bud's protectors work by clamping to nothing.
Somehow surge energy gets stopped, absorbed, or magically disappears?
Bud pretends that surge energy does not exist - profits are at risk.
Every responsible source says protection is achieved by earthing.
Bud says a protector works by 'clamping to nothing' which means it can
work on two wire receptacles. Meanwhile, other responsible sources
show a plug-in protector without 'whole house' protection means a plug-
in protector can even contribute to appliance damage - 8000 volts
through the adjacent TV - or scary pictures.
OP asked about surge protection when only two wire receptacles
exist. Only solution is a same solution done wherever damage is not
an option. One 'whole house' protector with breaker box earthing
upgraded to meet and exceed post 1990 National Electrical Code
requirements. Installing a UPS or power strip that 'clamps to
nothing' will somehow stop or absorb that surge energy? Hardly.
Every responsible source (including those cited by Bud) state that
earthing - not a protector - provides that protection. Plug-in
protectors (built to maximize profits) can even create scary
pictures. What kind of protection is that? Protectors recommended by
Bud.
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