Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom <w_tom1@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:33:15 -0700 (PDT)
On Jun 27, 10:42 am, bud-- <remove.budn...@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Lacking valid technical arguments w_ invents issues.
Plug-in suppressors have MOVs from H-G, N-G, H-N. That is all possible
combinations and all possiblesurgemodes.
How does a plug-in protector cause computer damage? Surge on Hot
wire gets 'clamped' to Ground wire and Neutral wire. What happened in
so many locations when this happened? Surge energy remains clamped to
nothing. That energy enters a computer via green ground wire, passes
through motherboard and modem, then obtains earth via phone line or
cable. Just one of so many paths destructively through the computer
because the plug-in protector was too far from earth and too close to
the computer. So many more destructive paths because of the H-G, H-
N, and N-G connections.
What does a plug-in protector do? Gives the surge more destructive
paths through the adjacent computer or any other appliance in that
room. Page 42 Figure 8.
Bud lies. The plug-in protector is a complete protection system?
So the protector also makes that claim? Of course not. It only
protects H-G N-G H-N for a type of surge that typically does not cause
damage. Where does it claim to protect from typcially destructive
surges? Better is to make no numeric spec claims. Better is to hire
sales promoters to promote myths. Why does Bud never provide a
protection spec for his 'complete protection system'? Even the
manufacturer will not claim that protection.
What do responsible sources all say? A protector is simply a
connecting device to protection. Protection is defined by the quality
of and connection to earthing. A protector is only as effective as
its earth ground - where that surge energy gets dissipated harmlessly.
Even a well respected researcher notes the problem with plug-in
(point of connection) protectors in his IEEE paper. Martzloff says:
Conclusion
1) Quantitative measurements in the Upside-Down house clearly
show objectionable difference in reference voltages. These occur
even when or perhaps because, surge protective devices are
present at the point of connection of appliances.
Martzloff's primary conclusion. Bud will spin some details into a
perverted fact. But researchers always note what provides surge
protection - earth ground. Why do telcos and other high reliability
facilities not use Bud's protectors? They only have 100 years
experience connected to overhead wires all over town. Telcos use
properly earthed 'whole house' protectors and do not use ineffective
plug-in protectors. They need protection - not myths from a sales
promoter.
A protector is only as effective as its earth ground. Where does
surge energy get dissipated? Either energy gets clamped to nothing
(which means energy may find earth ground destructively via
appliances) OR surge energy gets dissipated harmlessly in earth.
Where damage is not acceptable, effective protectors clamp to earth.
One 'whole house' protector for everything, or $2000 or $3000 of plug-
in protectors that don't even claim to provide that protection. Your
choice. Reality or more insults from Bud.
.
- Follow-Ups:
- References:
- Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: d_dd22222
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: bud--
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: bud--
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: John Fields
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: w_tom
- Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- From: bud--
- Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- Prev by Date: Sequencers
- Next by Date: Re: Another Novice Q. - recharging - Volts and Amps
- Previous by thread: Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- Next by thread: Re: Surge protectors to use with home electronics when grounding is not available?
- Index(es):
Relevant Pages
|