Re: Protel or ORcad?

guys.. guys.. please .. lets keep it seemly in here..

There's no need to start a war over oil or CAD.. every one has their
preference ... and we are all groupies... If engineers weren't "strange" and
quirky.. then we couldn't be engineers.. some of the greatest minds in
History have been so weird.. they put Hollywood to shame...

And there's something called Brand Loyalty.. companies do it all the time..
that's why Apple have university programs.. and you can buy student software
for one tenth the cost for commercial. Its not because students are poor...
as Universities aren't.

I've been using protel for decades.. since 2.8.. and at the time it was one
of the best for the dollar... things might be different now when there are
new start-ups around.. I still believe that for all the faults Protel has
been around for a long time.. and likely to be around for a long time to
come. so bugs will eventually be fixed and the usual theory of 1-2 years
delay or 3 service packs works. Pulsonix MIGHT be a better package right
now... but what is the company history? what are their upgrade plans ?
I looked at Pulsonixs and it reminded me of the older tools I've left behind
as the graphical interface is still a little clunky but in saying that
Protel has grown slower and slower due to over doing the interface... for
better or for worse. Also the price has only one year maintaince for
Pulsonix.. but Protel is supported until the next release... and some times
a little past.

And maybe.. just Maybe .. Pulsonix is the Protel of the 22nd centaury... and
Protel is going the way of Mentor Graphics. Orcad.. Pcad or Tango

Also, because of the financial investment I have in Protel.. I would always
prefer a competitive upgrade price rather than an outright purchase.

Simon


"R.Lewis" <h.lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Don Prescott" <DMBPrescott@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> > "Brad Velander" <SpamThis@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:<8a4ae.1103698$8l.84305@pd7tw1no>...
> > > Don,
> > > Do you always make mindless arguments and arguments on points
> > > that coincide with peoples comments?
> > >
> > > 25 years? Yeah right, were you in diapers then Don? If you
> > > weren't then you would know that there was no CAD 25 years ago
> > > unless you had mainframes or PDPs handy. Protel started approx.
> > > 1990 after the split between Nick M. and the Accel people. So
> > > approx. 15 years, not 25 years.
> > >
> > > Yes the unlimited version is lower priced than Protel, I told you
> > > that as well. So you can save $1000 on a $8K package while you
> > > spend $10K or more in training and support and setup costs to
> > > adapt and start using the package reasonably well.
> > >
> > > You critique me for mentioning Spectra as past-tense but
> > > almost every comment you make about Protel is past tense as well.
> > > Find anyone making comments about DXP and 5 service packs? DXP
> > > had 2 SPs, DXP2004 is currently on SP2 with SP3 imminent. There
> > > has been a wide acceptance of DXP from the start, very few users
> > > went back to P99SE and that was mostly an initial GUI/familiarity
> > > protest because they altered so many basic operations in the
> > > program.
> > >
> > > Find the comments that are not just past-tense, then maybe we
> > > can talk. That is if the complaint is not just mindless cattle
> > > fodder because the user figured it should do things or should do
> > > them the same way as the package that they were used to using.
> > >
> > > Then again, if you want to discuss the subject of the thread
> > > feel free. Otherwise I don't know where Pulsonix was invited into
> > > the conversation before you rudely pushed your way in like a used
> > > car salesman with off topic comparisons and exaggerations of
> > > price savings for lesser products that very well may not have met
> > > the original request's needs.
> >
> > "mindless cattle fodder"...."pushed your way in like a used car
> > salesman"
> > Tsk, Tsk, Brad! Do I detect you're getting a triffle pissed...
> >
> > Let's get something straight - Pulsonix is NOT a lesser product than
> > Protel. It came in merely 'cos I said I wouldn't recommend either
> > OrCAD or Protel and I mentioned what I use and recommend.
> >
> > But let's face it - you're a fully paid-up Protel groupie. I can see
> > that. Hearing something adverse about your pet product obviously
> > offends your sensibilites. Calm down!
>
> Steady on children.
>
> I can only agree that if you had paid n-mega bucks for Protel you would
have
> to be a 'protel groupie' to do so.
> It circulates for free just about everywhere in PRC so it is cheaper to
fly
> there and get a copy.
>
> If you want to see reall sad groupies - what about the poor souls that
have
> paid money for Cadstar?
> Now that software really is b*ll*cks.
>
>


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