Re: Has anyone produced a board using Kicad?


DJ Delorie wrote:
I have a not-for-distribution sample board which demonstrates the 10
second pause he's referring to. So far, it looks like a "catch up
with mouse events" scenario. I've also experienced the slow pre-hid
Gtk that some people complain about.

Ok DJ,

I spent all night playing with the Gtk current release version,
including striping the board I sent you down to the PCI frame and a few
hundred connections around the edge connector, cap's, and the like. All
other chips and connections removed from the board. Resulting
complexity is less than a typical microprocessor student board.

It still totally lags, and is in short a piece of crap runing on a
uniprocessor 2Ghz P4 with 4GB.
Of course, the lesstif version runs like a bat out of hell without any
problems, on either this cut down example, or the full example I sent
you.

So, in short ... it's NOT a "catch up with mouse events" scenario at
all, as moving the PCI frame to the right as before has nearly the same
8-10 second redraw all the rubber banded lines problems, and it takes
equally long to redraw it back original with "u" key for undo ... that
is NOT a catch up with the mouse problem.

Trying to drag a bounding box is suffering badly with 1/2 to 2 second
delays on mouse movements, cursor left/right movement and pan with
arrow keys lags badly, in short the whole thing just lags like hell
with a minor toy level design with NO components other than a couple
dozen caps, and a few hundred wires.

A bunch of other things are total broke as well. Try tab to flip to the
back side, and drag out a bounding box to select a region. The box
frame isn't clipped, scaled or mirrored to the area the mouse drags out
.... and neither is the region that actually selects.

If you select a large number of wires, such as the right side of the
ProofOfConcept board I sent,
the entire right half ... 3 collums, select, and pull down delete
selected, it chugs away for a long time ... hitting undo chugs away
again for a long time.

None of this happens with the old Xaw version, or the new Lesstif
version ....

so in short ... the Gtk version just plain sucks rocks after a year of
development as the prime recomended default release canidate.

Your Lesstif version has all the performance of the original Xaw
version ... so my hat's off to DJ.

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