Re: Protel 99SE - a good choice

On 6/2/2006 8:16 AM Mike Elliott wrote:

On 6/2/2006 12:34 AM David Brown wrote:

Mike Elliott wrote:
On 6/1/2006 12:02 PM nospam wrote:

Mike Elliott <j.michael.elliott@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Protel 3.x under XP appears to be having a host of problems. The only reproducible one is when I hit the scroll wheel on my mouse -- that's guaranteed to cause Protel AdvPCB to crash instantly with a General Protection error.

Probably some windows message it is getting which it doesn't understand and
handles ungracefully.
On the other stuff I've used Protel for years, and it often had trouble
recovering from crashes.
So what's the scoop on VMWare? Looks pretty geeky. But, as you say, at $189, it might be the low-cost solution to an otherwise messy and embarrassing problem.

It creates virtual machines, emulated real machines complete with BIOS and
peripherals. Hard drives are emulated with files on the host machine. The
host machine floppy drives, CD drives, LPT, serial ports, and USB devices
can be attached to the virtual machines. It also supports networking so the
virtual machine can be attached to the hosts network.
The emulation is fast, if you install VMware drivers for video mouse etc
for the target OS (check win95 is still supported) you will hardly notice
you are running a virtual machine. You can also take and manage multiple
'snapshots' of the complete virtual machine state so if something goes
wrong you can just set the machine back to how it was yesterday or
whenever.
Install VM ware, stick a win95 boot CD in the drive and you could be
running win95 in 10 minutes.
If it can solve your protel problems I think it will be a better solution
than another machine and its only going to cost you some time to try it.

I think you are right. It sounds good. I've downloaded and installed VMware. Anyone got a Win95 or 98SE boot CD they can sell me, or can tell me how to make a 98SE boot CD out of this 98SE install CD I'm holding here?

-- m.e.

Isn't Protel 3.x a 16-bit application from Win3.x ? If so, you might be able to get it running using DosBOX, which is a DOS Emulator (for windows and *nix), if you have some old Win3.x install disks.

Thanks, but no got Win 3.x install disks. I recall that Protel 3.x ran pretty stable under 95/98 -- I have a 98SE install disk, I would like to create a bootable CD from that. Can anyone point me to simple step-by-step "how to"? Many TIA's.

Belay that. My local computer retailer geeks tell me that my Win2000 and Win98SE install disks are already bootable. I misunderstood the "bootable" bit, thinking it meant that one could boot the OS from the CD's, not that they could be booted from for installation. Even as I speak Win2K is installing and, fingers crossed, phase of the moon correct, luck be a lady tonight, Protel 3.x will install and think it is on a Win2k box, and I recall that Protel 3.x seemed to be happy under that OS. Thanks, everyone. I will, just for the archives, report how well this crafty idea works.

-- m.e.
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