Re: A Golden Opportunity!
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Date: 08/20/04
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:46:11 -0700
"Dave Platt" <dplatt@radagast.org> wrote in message
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>
> In article <41240699$1@mustang.speedfactory.net>,
> Michael A. Covington <look@ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote:
>
> >"Dave Platt" <dplatt@radagast.org> wrote in message
> >news:10i7sfrorfghq64@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >>>> And that's the long and short of it: You anti-sniping folks are
crying
> >>>> because you got something taken away from you by someone who knew
what
> >>>> they wanted, knew what it was worth to them, and wanted it worse
than
> >>>> you did. Get over it.
> >>>
> >>>Er... Can't we say the same to YOU? If you know what you're
willing to
> >>>pay,
> >>>why do you snipe?
> >>
> >> Because, I think, that doing a snipe (with a value of "the maximum
I'm
> >> actually willing to pay") generates a higher number of wins, and a
> >> lower average winning bid, than doing a non-snipe with exactly the
> >> same value.
> >
> >So you should snipe, and we should not?
>
> That's not at all what I said, sir. Please don't put words in my
mouth.
>
> If you read back through my postings, you'll see that I wasn't telling
> you (or anyone) not to snipe.
>
> I've pointed out that if you DON'T snipe, and if you DON'T follow the
> "make your best, real bid" advice from eBay, then you are putting
> yourself at a disadvantage against snipers and other late bidders.
> That's neither a prescription nor a directive... it's just a statement
> of what I believe to be fact.
>
> >Not very Kantian...
>
> Your _interpretation_ of my words has a non-Kantian cast, it's true,
> but since that wasn't my intent, it's not terribly relevant.
>
> Sniping software is available to everybody, sniping can be done
> manually with nothing other than a web browser and a decent watch, and
> (as I see it) the playing field is entirely level. The Categorial
> Imperative applies fully, I believe.
>
> If you _choose_ not to snipe, or to enter lower-value bids rather than
> what you're willing to pay, that's entirely your voluntary choice.
> You're welcome to whatever advantages this gives you, and you should
> accept whatever disadvantages come with this strategy.
What happens in this scenario? The item is going for $5 up until a few
seconds before the end. You're willing to pay ten. You snipe ten a few
seconds before the end, but it's already at 11, and Ebay won't let you
enter an amount less than that. What happens? Software says snipe
failed?
Anyway. my contention is that sniping doesn't give the sniper any
significant advantage. And you the sniper still have to sit back and
watch a bidding war that's going over the maximum you're willing to pay.
> --
> Dave Platt <dplatt@radagast.org>
AE6EO
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