Re: FA: Vintage stuff up for auction UK - loads more next week

Obviously another cage rattled.

"JeffM" <jeffm_@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Jaygo wrote:
I have listed below part of the rules for my subscription to my NG
provider
(Berlin Uni) http://news.individual.net/
John

So, some lazy, clueless buffoon puts up a simplified definition
and you see that as a license to spam.

I wouldn't say the techies at Berlin University are entirely clueless.

It is inadmissible to use this server to post SPAM.
(To spam Usenet means to send many identical
or nearly-identical messages separately to a large
number of Usenet newsgroups.)

That's cute, but it only covers a tiny fraction of what is spam.

I did say part of the rules.

For starters, here's what ebay has to say on the matter:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:GlWDaaVQapQJ:pages.ebay.co.uk/help/newtoebay/usenet-policy.html+*-users-may-not-post-on-Usenet-groups+zzz+suspend-the-user's-eBay-account+violates

I am not a spammer

YES, you have been told *repeatedly* that you ARE a spammer.

Repeatedly? by whom ? I have been called many things during my thirty
odd years military service but none ever mentioned spammer. It actually
sounds pythonesque. Before anyone replies I know what spam was.

Your advertisements are NOT welcome in this DISCUSSION group.

It is clear that you are aware of *marketplace* groups,
http://groups.google.com/groups/search?enc_author=VBxQURoAAAAgAnnmzcJny0pMvjAvc3gBOgultvhkVwhfUahTtv1_ew&scoring=d&filter=0&num=100

Big deal, I enjoy NGs of course I'm aware of the various groups, if you
took time to read some of the threads you will not find a mention
of spammer.

yet you have made a selfish decision
to post ads to groups that obviously do NOT welcome them.

Not that obvious! I looked down previous threads and saw others
listing items for sale/swap/auction.

It is EASY to recognize the groups you seek.
They have in their names words like
forsale marketplace ads biz

Other groups, *MAY* tolerate ads
BUT YOU HAVE TO **READ** THE GROUP to see what is appropriate.
It is obvious that YOU DID NOT.
You are obviously just another drive-by spammer

Are you completely devoid of using terminology other than
that akin to me being a mad axe murderer. Although I do feel as
if I'm driving by and there are dogs barking at my hub caps for
no apparent reason.

who doesn't give a *** about this group
and sees it as yet another blank space to plaster an ad.

To put the capper on this, Mike told you about the proper group for
this
and he pointed to the charter for this group
which EXPRESSLY forbids the crap you pulled.

Yes I agree, he did, after I had inadvertantly posted the link in
the first message in this thread.

You have continued to resist doing the right thing
by conceding your selfishness and/or ignorance.

I notice you deleted the text from the previous thread
I do not suffer from a lack of "savior faire" either, here is some
of the original text from the previous thread:-

"I'm sure you know, as well as I, there are ways of speaking up and speaking
out and it was the original tone that had me at the short end of the bit."

Here is the charter again with the pertinent parts highlighted:
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.electronics/msg/13651a897337a7a9?q=Charters+misc.industry.electronics.marketplace+Discussions+Advertisement-*-*+only-advertise+sci.electronics.components-Integrated-*-*-*+individual-parts+*.*.not.a.forsale.group+zz-zz+Discussion

As a reminder here again is what happened:-

I inadvertently posted a link to some vintage electronic components
that I have for sale on eBay.I thought it may interest some of the
sci.electronic.components readers. I had briefly looked down previous
threads and saw others listing items for sale/swap/auction and -
as it now transpires - assumed my link would be OK.

The response from Mike Terrel was to change my link to
something with "spammer" in the text that generated a 404.
It is this I take exception to.

If my error had been pointed out in a civilised way - I
would have apologised profusely for not only the post
but also my idleness in not reading the NG charter.

John



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