Re: I've dumped Linux and moved to Windows XP.
From: David T. Johnson (djohnson_at_isomedia.com)
Date: 06/27/04
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Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2004 13:21:25 -0700
Sten Solberg wrote:
> On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 17:53:11 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:
>
>
>>"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-HNd3xLd22D76@localhost>...
>>
>>>On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 18:26:54 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Sten Solberg" <stens@powertech.no> wrote in message news:<4RR8ymkuyquO-pn2-dcj3bdSWzQ50@localhost>...
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:42:45 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security (...)
>>>>>
>>>>>When will you ever learn, Curtis? Out of the box, OS/2 does have some security
>>>>>which, when applied, also secures the file system.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Perhaps, if we use an extremely abstract and superficial meaning of
>>>>"secures the file system". However, generally speaking, when one
>>>>speaks of "file system security", one is speaking of a mechanism built
>>>>into the file system which governs access to each file according to
>>>>user access-levels and permissions. FAT and HPFS have no such
>>>>mechanism, and I do not believe that JFS does either. Why would they?
>>>> After all, OS/2 is a _SINGLE_ _USER_ operating system, and that is
>>>>the point. Based on this understanding of what is truly _meant_ by
>>>>"file system security", my statement stands.
>>>
>>>Well, on the - your - premise that OS/2 is a single user system, it seems rather
>>>specious to knock it for lacking local file system security as per your
>>>definition, which presupposes a multi-user setup.
>>
>>http://www.google.com/groups?selm=163715e7.0406230742.43a6f4d1%40posting.google.com&output=gplain
>>
>>MMI] I just can't wait until some of you comes here into COOA ranting
>>MMI] about NT's local security and OS/2's lack of it. :-)
>>
>>CB] Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security
>>CB] and multi-user access, and the 3rd party add-on that provides it
>>CB] is a beta port of Linux code.
>>
>>As you should clearly see, I acknowledged this "presupposition" going
>>out the gate.
>
>
> So it would seem, but you only stated expressly that OS/2, out of the box, is a
> single user system in your next posting. This is important, or somebody might
> be led to believe that OS/2 does not *effectively* come with local file system
> security out of the box.
>
>
>>Apparently, you either forgot that or simply ignored
>>it, only to subsequently try to accuse me of being "specious". Again,
>>as you should clearly see, such an accusation is totally unwarranted.
>
>
> I ignored it because it is irrelevant. Specific local file system security is
> obviously unnecessary on a single user system. Your statement, "Well, out of
> the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security (...)", is therefore both
> unfair and misleading without a qualification or two.
Curtis Bass and David McCoy love to talk about that allegedly great file
system security on Windows systems that are otherwise in a complete
security shambles. The average unpatched Windows installation cannot
even stay uncompromised long enough to connect to Windows update
according to a recent Slashdot discussion:
Idiot Windows users seem to worry way too much about that boogeyman who
is going to come into their bedroom, sit down at their keyboard, and
read all of their secret files but they don't worry nearly enough about
the guy secretly connecting to their computer over the internet and
using it to spam us.
-- Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52 and IBM Web Browser v2.0.3
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