Re: [OT] Lazy Inefficient European Socialist Losers?

From: Keith Williams (krw_at_att.bizzzz)
Date: 08/16/04 

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 14:11:33 -0400

In article <015vh0hhhb38g6dkom0tkiork15ua363on@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...
> On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:14:36 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 13:16:39 +0200, Frank Bemelman wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> >Pay for roads out of user fees.
> >
> >> I am not against tax at all. However, I don't always find it rationally
> >> how they are calculated and don't always agree with the name tags. And I
> >> hate it when they are spend on other issues, like road tax not being
> >> spend on new roads or maintenance of them.
> >
> >Agreed! Also, highway taxes spent on mass transportation.
>
> Mass transportation is not always the best solution for every locale.

No argument. There are about 150K people in this metropolitan area and
about 600K in the entire state. Mass transportation is a complete
failure, though the greenies keep pushing that rope. Mass
transportation takes mass as well as density.
>
> They're trying to do mass transit here in Phoenix, but Phoenix is so
> sprawling (we're not packed together like sardines as they are in
> Boston or New York) that the estimated tax-payer-paid subsidy, over
> and above the fare, would be $12.50 per "boarding".

This sounds like Howie Dean's (the same) Lionel train between two of
the richest towns/cities in the state. 12 miles at almost a million a
mile, just to upgrade the facilities. Apparently Howie's dad never
bought him a train set when he was a boy, so he felt he had to build a
big one. When Howie went on to infamy his replacement shut the thing
down as a loser, leaving all these nice track upgrades to the RR
company.

> At that rate it would be cheaper to simply buy the poor people a car.

Likewise, it would have been cheaper to hire limos to take people door-
to-door. Phoenix isn't alone in its madness.

> One "successful" mass transit idea that *is* working here is
> "Dial-A-Ride". Call the bus company and they come pick you up in a
> small "bus" and take you wherever you want to go, for "free". Working
> great for the elderly poor.

Oh, so you take the short bus? ;-)

We have a similar setup for the elderly. ...different program than the
"mess transportation". 

-- 
  Keith
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