Re: Engineering Environment

From: Kevin Aylward (salesEXTRACT_at_anasoft.co.uk)
Date: 09/16/04 

Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 08:39:36 GMT

Joerg wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
>>> How, then, do you explain acts of love where people clearly
>>> expect nothing in return?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No problem at all.
>>
>>
> Not much of an explanation.

I am assuming that you read the rest of the post for more direction.

>You are only pointing out repeatedly that
> one has to read all of your papers to understand what you mean.
> Assuming you know your papers, why not simply post a quote that
> explains this?

Because I would only be *repeating* what is already in the papers. I
referred you to the relevant section.

>
>>> Such as spending countless hours with a
>>> lonely dying person until he or she passes away. Such as giving in
>>> complete anonymity. Such as volunteering in wild animal rescue. I
>>> could go on and on. Some might do that to lift their self-respect
>>> but most don't need that. They simply give.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Oh dear... You obviously didn't understand the papers, as this is
>> explicitly addressed. Look dude, this is all explainable in the
>> approach, if you care to spend a little time on it.
>>
>>
> No, I don't understand. One reason may be because they clearly contain
> statements that are wrong.

Oh...

>Quoting your altruism paper: "For example,
> the Christian religion preaches that if you give, you will get
> everlasting life by going to heaven." How did you come up with this?
> That is wrong.

Not at all.

>The bible and all true Christian churches (Lutherans,
> Catholics, etc.) clearly teach that works such as good deeds, giving
> etc. do not suffice at all to get you to heaven.

Irrelevant, even it were true. How many passages do you want me to quote
from the Bable saying how one should be "helping ones neighbours" stuff
etc. Your claim is ludicrous in content.

>Faith does, and
> nothing else.

Oh... wow...

>Sorry, but I cannot believe statements in a paper when
> I know they are not correct.

This is complete cop out. It matters not a dickey that according to
xtian views that one can be a murdering, lying and thieving *** all
his life, and repent on his death bed and go to heaven. The papers stand
irrespective of minor details.

What you have done is put up your blinkers on a trivial point, because
you have already been indoctrinated in your views. You will use any
minor excuse whatsoever to avoid the issue. You are lying to yourself.

But I agree, further discussion with you on this is pointless. You are
xtian, therefore believe that faith (a belief with no supporting
evidence whatsoever, and despite contradictory evidence), rather than
the scientific method is the way to deal with the universe. This is
proof of a corrupted mind with little ability to rationalise the world
around them.

Kevin Aylward
salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
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