Re: Ping Kevin Aylward - re your "scientific paper"

From: Don Pearce (donald_at_pearce.uk.com)
Date: 09/20/04 

Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:51:07 GMT

On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:21:39 GMT, "Kevin Aylward"
<salesEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk> wrote:

>Not al all. There is one claim on one paragraph. No one has brought to
>me any other paragraphs that are unclear.
>
>>
>> And, nothing personal, but I seem to not be the only person who's
>> noticed.
>>
>
>You not the only person who has formed an opinion on the basis of one
>paragraph.

It is not only a lack of clarity - it is your lack of understanding of
- say - quantum mechanics that is the problem. Here we go with a few
quotes:

"No Two places at Once

It is often stated that Quantum Mechanics implies that a particle can
be in two places at the same time. This is false, and at no time has
any experiment ever been performed that detected co-incidence of the
same particle in two different positions at once.

The reason for this erroneous notion, is again, due to the non
existing collapse of the wave function."

Nowhere in quantum mechanics is there a claim that a particle can be
in two places at once - all you get is a probability field that makes
no claims about position, until you make a measurement and force a
collapse into a location - and that is always just one location.

Next quote:

"The collapse of the wave function or reduction of the state vector is
simple not required in the correct ensemble interpretation, nor is it
supported experimentally. No experiment has ever measured an object in
two states simultaneously. Objects have only ever been measured in an
eigen state, so to postulate that they do is unsupportable
metaphysics. Objects only exist in eigen states, it is just not known
which one they are in prior to a measurement. There is arguably,
little place in physics for notions that cannot, in principle, be
measured."

Duh! Of course no experiment ever placed an object in two states
simultaneously - the observation forces a single state. Have you not
read the books?

If objects only existed in Eigen states, but we didn't know what they
were until we measured them, then the two slit experiment applied to
individual photons would yield two bunches of hits, in line with the
slits. It doesn't - there is interference.

Next quote:

"Schrödinger Cat was introduced to prove that one interpretation of
the Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics was false. It
achieved this, yet many simply failed to notice. The fact that a cat
can not be both dead and alive at the same time was simple ignored.
The reason for this was that the mathematics worked, irrespective of
the fact that the metaphysical interpretation to the mathematics was
false. However, the mathematics simply does not require this
metaphysical add on. "

You've misunderstood - this was always an allegory. The idea was to
consider the condition of the cat to be included within the wave
function of the system inside the box. Obviously an object of that
size collapses the wave function as quickly as any observer, and the
cat is indeed either dead or alive in any real-world scenario. Imagine
a putative cat made of a single electron, and you have a better idea
of what the story is all about.

Will that do for now?

d

Pearce Consulting
http://www.pearce.uk.com

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